Article: "Mayweather Diminished By Avoiding Pacquiao"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by paulfv, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. Bravado

    Bravado Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly. They would rather see someone they dont like because he is better than Manny Pacquiao, lose with a potential added booster in his system as opposed to give them both even playing fields and let him lose


    Its easy to hate Floyd, yet if you call yourself a reasonable person you will admit that going for whats fair, is fair. I wouldnt want Manny to face Margarito and lose because of illegal anything and it should be no different with Floyd.
     
  2. Bazooka

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    Kid I watched the entire video on your behalf, and there was no talk about the rematch.... rewatch the video yourself... so you can either figure out what happend to the entire video you saw, or admit you didnt watch all of that video yourself.
     
  3. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You again ignore whatever needed to make Pac look good and put the full blame on Mayweather. They both went down but didn't fully give in to each other. Floyd wanted no cutoff. Pac wanted 30 days. Floyd said 14 days and Pac walked away. Not Floyd.
     
  4. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that's because people don't seem to get it when's it put into boxing terms... You get tested on this date for these things, beat the tests. Vs you get tested anytime between training and fight night, beat the tests. Which one would be more likely beaten? Which one would fighters most likely try to beat?
     
  5. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    And that's what people here don't get. Pac has accepted a reasonable blood test, reasonable meaning if he cheats, his chances of being caught are the same regardless of the cutoff date. It is Floyd who has rejected Pac's acceptance of a reasonable blood test.
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're flat-lining, and I'm about done with you. I tried to be nice, but you just don't want to listen.

    First of all, you said the evidence about Pacquiao blaming the Morales I loss on blood testing didn't exist. Owned.

    Then you try to make up alternative explanations of the timeline for this video evidence, when all available facts point otherwise.

    Now you either miss an obvious thing or else just choose not to include it.

    At the end of the video, the interviewer says "Morales will feel your punches next time," as in the upcoming rematch.

    It was fun. Next time, don't talk until you know what you're talking about. If you're not sure, go check the facts first. You could have saved yourself a lot of embarrassment on this issue had you done so.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

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    Probably best to just move on... If you think those examples are apt, well, good for you. Really, do you think those examples even mean anything? We all know the situation at hand already. Fudging it up to mean what he wants only works for him. And you I guess.
    :D
     
  8. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not ignoring anything: Any reasonable reading of the available information is that Floyd does not want to make the Pacquiao fight, or at least did not want to do so. There's virtually no other way to see this. Which is what I imagine most of the commentators and sports show panelists feel as well.

    Look, if you like Mayweather and want to take "his side" on this, you can do so. It's just not necessarily the strongest logical place to be. But, there is some cover, in the "take the tests" spiel. If you want it, it's there. Many do seem to want that, and Floyd knows it, so those who want to believe Floyd's version can do so.
     
  9. Bazooka

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    Where does it say, that, doesnt it say your make em feel your punches next time, while the host chuckles? he could have been talking about anybody, again this would be better had we had the official source, sadly its been uploaded in 2010 which doesnt help.

    lets find the original source, becuase you and I both know this is on Youtube, its dated 2010 and of course, anybody could change the text on that video....
     
  10. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Evidence means nothing to Bazooka. He called me a Pacquiao stalker. Even when I posted my pics here inside Pac's condo, he claims it's all from the internet. Don't expect him to believe anything you say if it doesn't fit his agenda.
     
  11. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes -- that seems correct.

    The goal here, in my opinion, by Team Mayweather is not to get an accurate reading of what has occurred. It is to spin what has occurred in a way that is favorable to Mayweather. This is commonly known as propaganda, or public relations.

    Which is totally ok. There are people and outlets which want to help Floyd do this. And good for them.

    Talking about what actually has happened, though, and looking at the logic of it all is a different matter. And that's some of what we've tried to do here, I hope.
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

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    Denial is a mother ****er for these Floyd fanboys. Hell, most don't even think he's evern hit a women in his life. :patsch
     
  13. Bazooka

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    But you self admitted to following him with a camera and you also stated that you should have video taped it, Now what normal person does that? and the pictures you have, look you know where they came from, Manny was filming that commercial for that Cell phone, and likely you either work for the filming crew or know someone who does, that doesnt make you a close friend of Manny it makes you a liar.
     
  14. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just sad, man. I'm sorry this worked out poorly for you. I tried to warn you ahead of time. You know I did.
     
  15. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The line of argument Bazooka is trying now on the Pac video is like...some kind of Zapruder Film/JFK stuff.

    We've all been there, when an argument is lost and we're trying to hang on. He was SO sure he was right, too. Like I said, we've all been there.