Article: "Mayweather Diminished By Avoiding Pacquiao"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by paulfv, Jun 8, 2011.


  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is good, but it isn't really about that.

    It is just true. If you are clean and running around with the guys on this site posting videos of you "agreeing" to reporters? Where is the breakdown?

    Come on man, you seem really sharp. How can he say I will test in one sense and Mayweather is saying this stuff? Someone is lying. Mayweather seems to have held firm on his original position after the first fight, "No test. No fight. Not negotiable."
     
  2. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is no accepted blood test for blood transfusions from one's own blood. Not the blood of a donor, you own blood. See:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_doping#Detection_of_blood_transfusions

    But, again, The Secret PED User Pacquiao really wants to cycle EPO the final 7 days even though he could just transfuse his own blood and no test could detect it.

    As I said, flawless logic. :patsch
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "No test. No fight. Not negotiable."
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Stop being a ****ing ******, Larry Merchant even stated that Ortiz is the fight to make for Pacquiao. and think what you will of Larry but that mother ****er has more boxing in his right pinky than you and the rest of the *******s have combined.

    Anyhow Paulfv,

    You think the cut in the Morales fight may have also had an effect on Manny feeling weak? or do you think that was not a factor?
    Reality is, Nobody is going to beleive that having blood taken 2 days before the fight effected him, I mean thats two solid days...
    I can say that a cut like that may have been the real reason.... and Manny is just using the blood work to explain his reason for the loss, and to avoid the testing thats being requested.
     
  5. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks, I think you're sharp as well. :good There are a lot of smart posters here. Even Bazooka is, though I'm giving him a hard time now. :rasta

    If you want to negotiate, negotiate. Pac tried to meet you halfway on a non-mandatory test. Get a window that essentially assures no PED effect, make a fight.

    I dont think the fight gets made. I don't think either side wants the fight. So, we'll have plenty more of this stuff to come.
     
  6. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's not going to negotiate on blood testing cutoff dates if that's what you're waiting for. Makes 0 sense for him to... He requests blood testing to 'clean up the sport'... He says all future opponents has to take said testing... Then he goes and backtracks on testing to face Pac? No... Doubt that happens.

    If he feels he'd be facing a dirty fighter in Pac making the cutoff further out would hurt his cause instead of helping it. This forum would shut down with Pac fans stating the testing was all BS if Floyd caved in.

    If you're not talking about blood testing cutoff dates then I'm sure he's willing to negotiate. But only time will tell. :thumbsup
     
  7. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No fight then. And that appears to be how Mayweather may like it.

    No negotiation, no fight.

    Floyd may be able to run his game with Shane Mosley or Ortiz, but that's not going to happen with pound-for-pound king, international icon, face-of-the-sport, Philippines congressman Pacquiao.

    Which, I would think, Floyd understands well.

    Floyd isn't dictating to Pacquiao, especially on a non-mandatory issue like this.

    And so it goes. Floyd understands what he is doing, and I think he will achieve the basic result he seeks.
     
  8. Bazooka

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    I dont beleive that neither side doesnt want this fight, are you kidding me there is too much money here to not take the fight.
    What I can say is this, if Manny is true to his word regarding the testing shortly after Ortiz Mayweather we are going to find out who wants this fight and who doesnt want this fight.

    I am stating simply I dont buy the Morales excuse, i dont buy the whole afraid of needles excuse, I dont buy the Floyd is demanding excuse neither, Not when Manny has made his own demands and requirements in facing him..

    a fighter has the right, to request testing, and Manny has the right to refuse, but explain to me this, How the **** can Pacquiao be the one to refuse the test, and suddenly that makes Floyd a coward?

    I wouldnt be so quick to call him that........ especially since he has had testing conducted since leading into fights.
     
  9. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not your initial position.

    Look, it's all good. Video is there, he said it, we all move on. Fight still has to be negotiated, and the reason Pac isn't down with the testing close to the fight is on the record. Hopefully, the issue can get resolved.
     
  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I said, I think Floyd will achieve the result he is seeking in this matter. And to me, that means no fight.
     
  11. CoDer

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    If Pacman brutalize JMM come November Floyd will move the pole again.

    Pacman want Floyd and will take the test. But since *****s are too thick... Then

    "Take the test Pacman!" :lol:

    Your old news people.
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you know what size ring they agreed to face in? Glove size? Purse split? Pretty sure all of that went exactly how Pac wanted it to, which is NOT what Mayweather's ususal setup is... But doing this wasn't negotiating on Mayweather's part to make the fight?

    Pac wants his way or no way. Funny how Floyd can't dictate any terms but Pac should get whatever the hell he wants despite who he faces. Even Floyd.
     
  13. Imperial1

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    As least we know Ortiz will have a pulse ..
     
  14. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only way he would achieve that is for Pac to continue to refuse random blood testing up to the fight. But that's Floyd's fault right? :thumbsup
     
  15. timeout

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    No fight is how mayweather wants it.
    After all what would he be without his 0?