Article: "Mayweather Diminished By Avoiding Pacquiao"

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What position is Pac "dug in" to? I think nobody really knows Pac's position.

    Unfortunately that leads to speculation that...
     
  2. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    my 2 cents...
    First, i thought that neighter man's legacy ought to be tarnished for not fighting each other.

    But then i realized that Mayweather will FOREVER be held at a higher standard for a simple reason - that ZERO.

    ANY holder of a Zero will be forever scrutinized. Even 10 years down the road, a new generation of ESB goofballs are going to be scrutinizing Mayweather's ZERO, if its legit or not. The premise of the ZERO is that you have been THAT DOMINANT. But to be THAT DOMINANT, you are Expected to have fought the best competition available. Mayweather will forever lose out to Pacquiao historically because of this. The fact that Pacquiao has 3 losses in his column is to his advantage conversely....
     
  3. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only *****s buy the crap from the ****** Floyd. Whatever happened to "lost urge", "legal problems", "getting married". It seems they don't apply when an easy fight is in for the taking. ****** Floyd will lose his urge again after Ortiz.
     
  4. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    im not supporting any professional athlete who has to whine about taking random blood and urine. no matter who asked for it...the idea itself should be embraced.

    no..i do not support the stance of B-hop either.

    I am not saying they are guilty of anything and at the moment i rate them accordingly but i do not support their issue with taking the test and i will always wonder why was the test so hard to take....when in fact anyone else would take the test..Martinez would, Mosley has, Ortiz will, and im sure any other opponent Floyd faces will agree....testing should never have been an issue.

    14 days was what was offered first they bulked at it....he took it off the counter....not saying it wasn't fair but thats what happened....either way i dont see the issue with a 14 day cutoff or no cutoff....testing should not have been an issue!
     
  5. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    I support better drug testing for all sports. But not to the point where it compromises athletic performance and safety of the athletes.
     
  6. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacquiao is avoiding Mayweather, not the other way around.
     
  7. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So the news is that Pac agreed to a full random blood test until the fight? If this is the news then I guess I am behind, but if it isn't then Pac is still crying the same BS he's been crying before and that's old news.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So the testing protocol used by the Olympics (where world records are set constantly) somehow "compromises athletic performance and safety of the athletes"? :think

    So it became full random Olympic testing became STANDARD because the athletes were so "compromised" and "unsafe"? :huh

    Man this stuff is probably starting to make your head burn from trying to make it make sense. :lol:
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He's said it already. Of course, most Floyd fans don't count it because he never said it ESPN or someone of their liking...
     
  10. NorthernCross

    NorthernCross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Actually no. This is a recent thing. And if testing is so important to Floyd, then why did he give Mosley, an admitted user, such a huge cutoff? That's hypocrisy, and there's no arguing around that.

    Pac should do the test though, because it's the right thing to do. Hell, all pro athletes should.
     
  11. Bazooka

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    So what your saying is that the 1:01 sec mark of that video is Manny clearly being dizzy as a result?
    Has nothing to do with the fact that he took off his dark ass sun glasses. Your 100% confident he was dizzy there:patsch
    Watch this **** again let me see just how ****ing stupid your sorry ass is.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq4qLX0h9Zk&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
    You ****ing people never quit, I mean serious man you call your self a fan of the sport, yet out right lie to suit your agenda when its clear as ****ing day that he was adjust1ng his eyes after taking the glasses off.

    Do your self a ****ing favor, Just die...
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac has stated on video that he'll take the tests... Same thing he did back before he fought Margo and his people came out later saying they only agreed to a 7 day cutoff... Which is exactly why people are not convinced he's truly agreed now. They expected Team Mayweather to contact them directly when they had that stupid ass time limit on Top Rank website. But now all Pac has to do is say in some clip online (not even a whole video) he's agreed and somehow that's written in stone and they need not contact Team Mayweather. But the Floyd fans don't count it, because we hate Pac and don't listen to reason. :thumbsup
     
  13. Boxing Fanatic

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    sure he'll take the test after the negotiations are over :roll:
     
  14. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Not my scientific findings.

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    Urine, not blood, test for boxers pushed

    By NICK GIONGCO
    June 10, 2010, 7:11pm
    Drug-testing procedures for a potential super fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr., if held in Las Vegas, will be limited to urine testing, as far as the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) is concerned.

    The NSAC upheld on Wednesday (Thursday in Manila) its drug-testing procedure on boxers as topnotch doctors Robert Voy and David Watson told the commission that urine samples are sufficient in catching drug-cheats.

    Fight scribe Mike Marley wrote that Voy, a long-time Olympic boxing physician, and Watson, a member of the NSAC medical board, were of the belief that random blood testing is not the answer to curbing the use of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs).

    The two were involved in NSAC talks to review its current drug testing procedures for boxing, and assess whether or not a more stringent policy should be implemented.

    It goes beyond saying that the talks were most critical to the proposed Pacquiao- Mayweather showdown being eyed for November 13, in which drug-testing procedures are a main point of negotiations.

    Voy, formerly the chief medical officer of the US Olympic Committee, said blood-testing in boxing is “unreliable and impractical” and even “dangerous” and that urine testing should be done “closer to the event, the better.”

    Watson echoed the same sentiment.

    “I believe that urine is the best substance to test. I agree with Dr. Voy that urine (random testing) is what we should require and that blood is not necessary. I agree with Dr. Voy that there are theoretical and real risks to blood testing one of which is a (boxer getting) a hematoma on the elbow or a clot from missing a vein. There are also HIV and Hepatitis C risks,” said Watson.

    The Pacquiao-Mayweather bout had originally been penciled for March 13 but a feud in drug-testing procedure sent negotiations down the drain.
    Mayweather demanded for Olympic-style random blood and urine drug testing to be conducted on both fighters.
     
  15. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    So you're telling me you never heard of people getting dizzy after getting blood drawn? I'm sure you've gotten blood drawn before. How did you feel?