Pac can still juice with USADA testing, so why doesn't he just do it?

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  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    victor conte says there are ways around it.
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Too much to lose if they make a mistake.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    he fights too often and it's too risky. floyd meanwhile fights less and has time to cycle it off.
     
  4. Relentless

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    they cant make a mistake, i've read and heard don victor conte talk about it, its easy as hell, plus he can help.
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Yeah but if anyone would find out they had contact with Conte **** would hit the fan.
     
  6. Relentless

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    then he can call the hundred other dope dealers.

    andre ward and nonito donaire work with vic.
     
  7. Emeritus

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    Its true....this OSDT could be better it should be out of competition too to stop fighters trying to beef up with steroids or cycling off.

    At least it is a start and a good one at that.....and it means during camp at least both fighters will be clean.
     
  8. Relentless

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    no it wont

    victor conte said he has helped many people pass usada testing and usada isn't olympic testing.


    you cant find what you dont know about.
     
  9. Abram

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    His power comes from God.
     
  10. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    God = Good Ol Drugs? :think
     
  11. s1nn3d

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    So if that is the case, I wonder how come noone is clamoring for Donaire to undergo USDT? Heck, he just hires Victor Conte as his nutritionist. He just ktfo of his opponents. He is pretty fast as well. He's gone up weight divisions already too. I mean, by your supposition, a mere contact with Conte would already cause the **** to hit the fan, then I guess Donaire's actions is the mother of all **** hitting the fan. But hey, everyone waving the banner of better test and cleaning the sport is turning a blind eye on this "damning" case. For some reason, it's only Pacquiao who is suspect to taking PED's considering they claim it's rampant in the sport. It's only Pacquiao whom they want to take the test... all in the name of cleaning the sport.
     
  12. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think there is a good chance Floyed takes them before camp too. There obviously is a lot of steroids and PEDs going around these days. Joe Calzaghe is one of the only top guys I'd bet was clean.

    Working with Victor would be easy enough for Pac though imo. All he would have to do is work with with a guy who was working with him and then get all the advice secretly through a middle man. That could be what Floyed's already doing though lol.
     
  13. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  14. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no dought that most of the top guys are taking stuff these day imo. Certainly most of the top p4p fighters anyway. Conte isn't the only distributer, he only gets so much attetion because he was caught. I am all for OSDT testing even though I've no dought people would still find a way of getting around it because I think you'd have less doing it at least. The current tests can be cheated by an expierienced personal trainer who has a good knowledge of steroids. There should also be sting operations imo.
     
  15. iceferg

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    Arcane - If your lauthing at the fact that I said Calzaghe is the one of the only guys I'd bet on being clean I don't know why. He only worked with his dad as a trainer unlike most guys today who have strength coaches who look like they're full of stuff. He was also pretty hollow chested compared to most other boxers and his body aged more naturally as well. He was clearly a lot more toned in his 20's than he was in his 30's unlike most now. He also had to cancel a lot of fights through injury. Steroids help you recover from injuries a lot faster.

    It's not like he came to the ring looking like Herculies like most other guys do these days. If you look at Pac, he's gained a lot of weight, has a massive head/hands and if you look at his weigh in photos he always has one or two massive spots on his chest and back.