Ranking a fighter is not solely based on his resume

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by quarry, Jun 8, 2011.


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  1. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    How do you want to do this duel?
     
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  2. D.T

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    You are quite easily the biggest ****** on this forum.

    And beating Foreman Hook to claim such a title takes some skill.
     
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  3. quarry

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    anyway you want to do in relation to boxing knowledge
     
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  4. quarry

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    you ask me a question on boxing, then i ask you a question on boxing.. whoever fails to get the question correct loses. ok.... 2 minute time to answer
     
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  5. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    I cannt do this 2 minuets thing as i have to go out very shortly.
     
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  6. quarry

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    :lol:
     
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  7. quarry

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    i have dozens of great questions to ask you which google wont be able to help you with, so let me know when your back in after your shortly going out
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    I don't factor h2h that much in my lists. H2h is too hypothetical and very hard to prove. I.e. Who is better h2h wlad or sanders etc.

    They base on resume and legacy.

    Just to address the point about lewis, byrd and ruiz were never number 1 contender.

    Since lewis beat briggs the number 1 contender flowed as thus

    Holyfield->tyson->wlad->vitali.

    The champs during this period were briggs->lewis->rahman->lewis.

    So lewis beat two linear champs and beat 3 number 1 contenders.

    I think when lewis retired and vitali beat sanders, both byrd and ruiz were top 5 so perhaps he had more of am obligation to face them then lewis did, especially considering byrd held a controversial victory over vitali.
     
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  9. Rocket

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    Frazier Chuvalo was stopped because Chuvalo turned his back and didn't want to fight anymore. Its not like they consulted stopping it at ringside, did you see the fight ? Chuvalo quit
     
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  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox fought Vitali he just never rematched him.
    McCall and even Rahman were not medicore fighters . Brian London , Henry Cooper and Jerry Quarry were inferior to them as h2h heavies .
    Louis was leveled by Schmelling whom was inferior to McCall & Rahman as well. What do you know about Schmelling's stoppage losses ? do you think the men who stopped him could beat Maskaev ? of course you do.
    Of course you also think Ali beat Doug Jones , George Chuvalo twice and would have won twice against a cut proof Sir Henry Cooper.
    Didn't Don King paid Lewis step aside money so Tyson would fight Bruno instead of Lewis in 1996 ? why do you think Lewis avoided Tyson in 1996 ?
     
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  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier thumbed Chuvalo who needed a reconstructive surgery in his eye socket because of it. If that was quitting then you can keep considering it that way.
     
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  12. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    I am back , done my shopping now. Hows about we get some reputable members to rate us in a debate. We can debate on 3 topics. Questions a few quirky questions that we both know wont allow us to display a detailed knowledge of boxing.
     
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  13. D.T

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    How about you all STFU?
     
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  14. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    **** of D.T. Stop trying to hang out with the big boys.
     
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  15. D.T

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    As I said, why don't you STFU?
     
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