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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Don Q, Jun 8, 2011.


  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    1) floyd would be a ***** if he would require a puncher like pacquiao to wear a bigger size of gloves. besides, floyds last fight against jmm was also 8oz.
    2) Las Vegas ring size is standard and you know that floyd won't fight outside las vegas. so the choice of location and ring size was actually floyd's.
    3) Floyd just cheated jmm of the scales, this request is justified. meanwhile floyd accuses pac of PEDs and requested additional testing.
    4) Floyd's PPV with jmm was about 1.05M buys, while pac's PPV with cotto was about 1.25M buys. so tell me who conceeded the 50/50 split when pac was the one coming off with the better buys and is the more recognizable fighter that time? 50/50 was pac's concession and not floyd.
     
  2. terp

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    weak response. most of them have nothing to do with ducking. pac never said he was afraid of needles. he did say drawing blood weakens him though ill give you that. he was still willing to negotiate the terms though - SHOWING INTEREST IN THE FIGHT.

    lets go back to ... im on vacation, no negotiations, im not really thinking about boxing right now... does that sound like someone who wants to fight or at least negotiate? :hi::hi::hi:
     
  3. terp

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    floyd: "not only do i wanna fight pacquiao i wanna whoop his punk ass!"... "im gonna make him make me some sushi rolls"..."blah, blah blah little midget"

    pac: ok lets fight

    floyd: uuhm can you take a test first... quack, quack, quack....
     
  4. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    Again, he agreed to TEAM PACs TERMS! Why couldn't they just agree to the only thing he demanded? To me that shows how selfish they are. One of the most shocking things to me was that Floyd actually agreed to 50/50 when he normally doesn't do it even less with Bob Arum, yet you guys can't see this?

    C'mon man, I can joke around with every *******, but it was clear at least during the first negotiations the one that backed out was your boy. Is it so difficult to understand?

    The second time around when they came back Floyd had already said the terms of the first negotiations wouldn't be acceptable(cut off date) it would require OSDT. They knew it and on top of that the ones to blame about Floyd asking for more testing is TEAM PAC, because they gave Floyd all the suspicion he needed to ask for more tests.

    Like I have said before, Pac is a good person(at least looks like one) and is a great boxer(even taking PEDS, if he uses them, you can't deny the guy has talent), but he is surrounded by scum who make him look bad. The thing is it was quite clear who wanted this fight in the first place and who didn't.
     
  5. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know, but I never heard Pac or Arum or anyone from team Pac calling out Floyd during this time, or did they?
     
  6. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    When did Pac said he wanted this fight? He has always said "What my promoter wants" or "I don't need Floyd" :tired
     
  7. comanick

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    I agree with you 100%. I have said in the past that arum and team pac ducked the first nego and everything after that has been a smoke screen.

    IMO with the first nego that was the best offer they were ever gonna get from floyd. He was actually being more hospitable than ever and you know what? Manny and his team walked away and then they tried to lie about it to the media to make floyd look bad and then they sued him. I have never seen that many b$%^h moves in 1 serving before.

    When they decide to come back after all of that and floyd doesnt bow down now that they are ready to fight then floyd is a ducker and a coward. Really?

    It seems like some pac fans (i wont say all) have this bias already in there head that pac is the king of everything and he has the right to ask for anything and get it but no one can ask him for anything because that means they are ducking. If they step back and realize that floyd has just as much juice as manny then they will understand why what he did in the first nego was just wrong. You cant just duck a guy, try to crap on his name then sue him and then expect him to rush to do honest business with you now tat you are ready.
     
  8. terp

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    damn you make it sound like floyd is such a nice guy and pac is just "crapping" all over him with the suit. get your facts straight dude. first of all, do you really think with floyds ego and greed that he will 'just agree' to every demand?
    secondly, whos doing all the 'crapping' around here? floyd and pac have never met inside or outside of the ring and have never ever spoken to each other- so whats with all the hatred coming from floyd? pac has NEVER failed a drug test, but now many people believe he is on peds because of floyds damaging statements. floyd later calls him a little midget and that he will "whoop his punk ass". pac has no comment. floyd then goes on his racist rant on ustream. pac just says "let it be, its just an uneducated statement". have you ever heard pacman say anything bad about mayweather (or anyone else for that matter)?
     
  9. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    this...^
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    any boxing expert knows may schools him. u *******s are delusional
     
  11. Sean Juan

    Sean Juan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats usually what fans of any fighter/athlete do.
     
  12. comanick

    comanick Member Full Member

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    This is what i mean. Do i think floyd is some super nice guy? No, But he is a person just like me and you. The things that bother us bother him too. Now nothing i said was a lie yet you ignored all of it and bring up things that happened after what i just mentioned. How can you knock 1 but not the other. Manny ducked floyd in regards to the March fight. That is a fact and lied about it. Does that not matter to you. does that not show in a small way how pac and arum get down. Of course not because you dont like floyd so any thing pac does is ignored and everything may does is amplified. Its lame.

    Lying to make someone look bad to cover your own azz is crapping on someone and that is what PAC AND ARUM did. Was floyd not suppose to care and bow down once pac was ready. Would you.
     
  13. outslugger

    outslugger The Relentless Stalker Full Member

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    Pac is on roids people, get over it.

    Floyd isn't fighting him without the OSDT because he knows that his defense may not be enough, given that Pac punches like a MW and throws 1000+ punches per fight.

    Without PEDs Floyd gets a lopsided UD IMO
     
  14. terp

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    how do you call that a 'duck'? both sides couldnt come up with an agreement on blood testing. and what is the "lie" you are talking about?
     
  15. terp

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    yeah right... 14 days of peds can turn any midget into a pacmonster...pffft..