It's quite clear to everyone with common sense that...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Don Q, Jun 8, 2011.


  1. outslugger

    outslugger The Relentless Stalker Full Member

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    Ain't saying that he is garbage without the PEDs, but given that Speed and Workrate are Pac's edges, I'm almost sure that roids are rocketing his performances.

    14 days, 4 weeks, 6 weeks, I dunno dude, I've never used roids before. Have you?
     
  2. comanick

    comanick Member Full Member

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    are you telling me you are giving an opinion and you dont even know what happened. LOL. Ok here is some history. Floyd agreed to the points that pac wanted. Floyd wanted random testing up to the fight. Pac wanted a 30 day window. they couldnt agree so a mediator was brought in. They got it down to 14 days and guess what? that wasnt acceptable for pac so he walked and fought clottey. Now maybe an hour after mediation arum goes on record saying we offered a 14 day window and floyd declined it.He did this to curve the backlash manny would have got for ducking the fight. The mediator himself came out and said that was not true and that it was pac that walked away. and then they sued him. If thats not a duck then floyd has never ducked anyone ever.

    but after that i guess once pac grew some balls floyd was just suppose to bow down and give him what he wants. I'll ask again, would u?
     
  3. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    7........day..........cut...........off.
     
  4. terp

    terp Member Full Member

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    that aint how it happened dude. get your facts straight
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So says the catch weight king. :roll:
     
  6. terp

    terp Member Full Member

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    there is no magic pill. you dont need to be a rocket scientist to know that these things dont work overnight.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is the way it happened. :lol:
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have pretty much been saying this for some time, the only flaw in your argument is that you don't blame the party responsible: Manny Pacquiao and make scapegoats out of Arum and Koncz.
     
  9. comanick

    comanick Member Full Member

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    so tell me what happened because i know those are the facts. you can google it if you like. Hell you can probably find old post about in on this site. So in the future you really shouldnt comment on things you dont know cause if you dont know all of that happened then u dont really know anything. lol.
     
  10. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    For a guy that cheated a LW at the weigh in, to grab a bigger advantage than he already had, what makes you think Floyd agreed to those stipulations out the goodness of his heart? its quite clear Floyd is a guy that likes to grab every conceivable advantage.


    Maybe!, Floyd agreed cause he was gonna drop his bombshell about OST? cause I question whether he agreed to that so the fight could get made easier. If Floyd did agree, cause he wanted to make the fight easier, negotiation wise, as he wanted the fight so much, then why did Ross Greenberg say....

    Floyd fought Judah after! he lost, cheated Marquez at the scales, and when you listen to his interviews, when he talks about how Leonard lost to a LW, I think it gives an indication of how much stock Floyd puts in certain advantages.

    You could say, Mayweather let DLH choose his gloves, but DLH was the cash cow, Mayweather doesn't do stuff like that out of the kindness of his heart, or because he's a true fighting man who'll take on anyone regardless of circumstance, if you believe he is, well.....
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Team pac is full of ****.
     
  12. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    With all that **** you wrote you still can't deny the facts. Who said that Floyd was kind to agree to all of what they asked for? Nobody is here saying he was a good person for doing it. The fact is that he was asking for only one thing while team pac asked for much more. Still, that wasn't enough for them.

    It was more of a disadvantage for them to take the tests than it was to get all that they asked for. Also, that quote from Ross, he clearly says it was THE SECOND time around. If Pac would have agreed the first time the fight would have been made.

    Nobody is here trying to defend Floyd for cheating JMM or fighting Judah when he lost or what he has to say about SRL. I'm just stating the facts that the ones who rejected the fight the first time was Team PAC and they are also the ones who fed Floyd's suspicion that Pac was/is on something.

    Geez you Floyd haters/*******s keep looking even more stupid.:patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  13. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    What about training, you dumb ass... When you use roids you use them during your training. Then when the fight is near you can cycle them off. That doesn't mean you won't get the benefits from them.

    With OSDT the fighters don't know when they are going to be tested, because it's random. Therefore, you can't use them because you will get caught. If you have a cut-off date or know when you are going to be tested you can cycle them off.:patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  14. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've posted this before, but since this same list of 'demands' gets put up on ESB every five minutes I figure I'll just keep responding the same way every time.

    1) Which gloves to use:
    Welters typically use 8oz gloves. Yes, in NV you can negotiate to use 10s, still that's not the norm.
    2) Size of the ring:
    You have a point there, although if you actually watch a FMJ fight he's not exactly dancing around the ring like Ali, he stays in the pocket mostly and throws / shoulder rolls / counters.
    3) 10 Million for Each Pound Over:
    FMJ has never been shown to have a problem coming in @ the 147 lb limit. He has shown a willingness however to come in heavy if he feels like it (JMM anyone?)
    4) 50/50 split:
    Yes, FMJ has better PPV numbers, it's true. But guess what? He can only make the mega-huge-gigantic-enormous money facing Pac. Otherwise, he'll just make the mega-huge money facing guys like Ortiz (by the way, I really like the Ortiz fight). Same thing with Pac, they both need each other, and sadly, that's just the way it is.

    So yeah, basically the list of 'demands' that he agreed to when you think about it ain't really that big of a deal.
     
  15. zerocool1523

    zerocool1523 Active Member Full Member

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    ah common sense... clearly you dont have one..