Freddy Roach: Ortiz has a real shot to win

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  1. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    look at your post.....how is it one of the best trainers in the world can say this match is competitive...but you seem to think otherwise so you use the emoticon as if to say he made a dumb statement....so again...am i wrong here?
     
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    I personally believe its because no matter what gameplan you have against mayweather, his ability to adapt and change makes those gameplans useless. Like roach said. "hes that smart"
     
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    You can tell that Freddie still hasnt worked Mayweather out,
    I guess no-one really has, although Richardson provided Mosley
    was a good way to get a couple hard rights in.

    Mayweather does tend to be a renowned slow starter if anything.
     
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    Ofcos I say that I don't agree with One of the top trainers in the world as u put it...Does that mean that because he holds such a high distinction that one can't disagree? Did I say that 'My Opinion' is more credible than this One of the Top trainers in the world?

    Again I ask, show me where I said that...Not what YOU READ into my comment ;)
     
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    DON'T FORGET YOUR COMMAS!!!
    Thank you.
     
  6. igotJUIC3

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    :patsch<<<<<<<this right here suggests something is stupid or dumb

    this is what you used to disagree...did i say you couldnt disagree no...but you didnt just disagree you implied it was stupid or dumb......also implying your analysis holds more water....no?
     
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    Oh Snap, thanx teach...lol
     
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    Ok Sir, lemme try this again cos u don't seem to be understanding me...Yes imo it is a dumb statement by Roach hence the :patsch moticon. Now like I said that's imo ( In MY opinion.)

    There's a saying that goes something like "Opinions are like asses, everybody has one"

    But your original question to me was "So Freddy Roach word about a boxing match dont hold water compared to yours?" And again I ask u, Where did I say that MY OPINION holds more water than 'One of the best Boxing Trainers in the world'
     
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    I have never seen a boxer as scared of another boxer as I have seen Void! Void is void........................
     
  10. Gander Tasco

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    He only has a shot because Floyd's been on a long layoff. If it wasnt for that, Ortiz would get pretty much no shot. He's not in Floyd's class or Pacquiaos.
     
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    Ortiz will Ko May, mark my words.
     
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    if your implying his is stupid/dumb...then your implying your opinion on the fight is more valid....no?

    If you disagree thats one thing....to suggests he makes a dumb/stupid statement by saying its a competitive match then what makes you so sure his statement is :patsch and yours is not keeping in mind he's been in the game longer than you as a fighter and as a trainer...unless you are older than Freddy and have done both of these.

    So therefore your implying your opinion is more valid and holds more water. NO?
     
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    the only blueprint Ortiz has is how to quit..

    only thing Victor got on him is age..and that can be nullified with experience, ring generalship and everything floyd has.

    roach, just use the castillo and Judah fights as the blue print.
     
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    Victor Ortiz will get the most comprehensive beating you will see this year. Then Mayweather will 'take a break' from boxing and Pacquiao will fight Ortiz
     
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    Sir if I dnt agree with wt Roach says then imo yes it is a stupid statement...U urself also hav the luxury to agree with Roach or not. Whether u think it holds more water is entirely up to u tho as I'm nt trying to force MY OPINION on anyone else. I think we should gracefully agree to disagree on this topic...