weight lifting...why such different views on it in boxing???????

lets get a few things out of the way, i am quiet sure i have WAY more boxing experience then you,

i am 28, i have been boxing since i was 13-14 years old,
i have trained with canadian,romanian,latin,american and russian coaches,

most of whom said you should lift weights to some degree espically if your a heavyweight


i am a heavyweight and i have sparred many of the best heavyweights in canada in the last 20 years from razor ruddock to the currect canadian champion neven pajic,

its the the injuries that prevented me from having too many contests
while i do hold my own with lots of top amauters and pro's in the country.


now please stop with the whole mma thing,
yes i am into mma, as i have done 5 years of bjj
and wrestled in unversity, but i never brought mma
into the converison because this is a boxing site
and boxing will always be my 1st love

but before you make fun of mma guys, go to a gym and
train with them, they will tear you apart in anything
besides boxing....(assuming you even know how to box)


i am misinformed....right??????
i am the one who has trained with all these guys
from different countries and will spar anyone

what the hell have you trained???
besides on your keyboard on the internet





about chicken legs, dempsey didnt really have chicken legs
and besides
the legends you named were fighting guys who were training the same way as they were,


also in those pre-weightlifting days, 35 was considered an old man
now its almost the medium....doesnt that say anything to you???


please know what your talking about
boxing,mma,grappling whatever the hell you want to talk about

just go train something before you open your mouth


reading up on fighters is one thing
takeing punches in the face is another



and yes weightlifters dont make great boxers
whats your point and boxers dont make
great weighlifters lol

but these are modern times and people cross train
to get the best results for their bodies

 

ps
those long distance runners from kenya
would make **** boxers too

lol but again no one dare question


on the question of legs

all the guys who mention are of yesteryear

in modern times
look at big punchers

hamed, pacman,abraham,tua,
most have thick legs

not the KFC style legs lol

 

Boxers have always done weight lifting in the form of press ups, chin ups, bodyweight squats. Doing these with higher resistance (ie weights greater than body mass) will improve explosive punching. Exercises like jerks, overhead presses, cleans are more conjusive to power punching, than chins/press ups. Weights alone aren't a substitute for boxing and stamina training ofcourse

 

In which case you haven't done much running, if you run regularly you're picking up injuries, whether knees/ankles/feet. Squats if done properly will not damage your knees/joints, quite the opposite, most people don't come close to doing them right

DISAGREE If the ****ers trained specifically for boxing they'd be throwing about 300 power punches a round

 

14 years of boxing and you clearly have soo much to show for it.

thank you for proving my point.

5 years of bjj mixed in with 14 years of boxing, if you dedicate yourself to mma you could make something of your self, but you will allways be a jack of all trades and a master of none.

 

when i did squats i did them as insructed by a personal trainer at a weight gym.

ive run marathons, and ive gotten injuries but they never lasted more then a day of rest and a day of active recovery biking. while 3 sets of 8 squats done while professionally supervised kept me from running biking and training for almost 3 weeks.

 

what point *******???

nice smartass comment

if you live anymore close to toronto canada
we can spar,

and master of all trades, hahaha
well why do you have this hate of mma?


i bet i can beat you in sparring using one hand....




i also like the fact that you did not have any answers to
the points i raised,

the reason being is you never stepped in a ring
or even a gym???

lol you had a personal trainer, nice your some
rich boy to lazy to train by himself
and to chicken to ever actually box

am i right keyboard warrior??? be honest

 

ps what the fcuk
do you have show in boxing


i dont hear you mention one thing
about boxing yourself


be a man step into a ring before talking to those have

 

weight training is good in my opinion. But to save recovery time and energy i think its best to only do the primary compound movements. 1 press movement each for the chest and shoulder. chinup or row for the back. squat or deadlift for the legs. Then throw in some accesory excercises like ab work,calf and neck. Keep it short and sweet with the best bang for your buck movements. That way you wont f**k yourself up with excessive workload and can succesfully recover from all the boxing specific training that is already very demanding

You can injure yourself with weights but thats because most people dont know how to train the excercises properly. Took me friggen years of much reading and different opinions to find the most effective and safest ways to train each movement. Alot of people seem to gloss over training technique. Since then i dont have any problems with injuries and yes weight training does make your body much more durable in general as long as your not breaking it down with bad technique or shitty excercises.

 

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Personal trainer Personal trainer's don't know how to squat properly, it takes effort and knowledge perfecting the technique. But if you injured yourself squating then you'd injure yourself running, you are not a regular runner if you don't pick up running injuries, all regular runners pick up injuries and the joints take a hell of impact

You seriously don't seem to know what you're talking about at all and insulting highguard from the safety of behind your keyboard is unnecessary

 

14 years of boxing, if you knew what you were doing all you would have to do is post up your boxing rec page.

what do i have to show? why do i have to show anything? im not that one thats claiming to have been boxing for 14 years.

what do you have to show? so far a couple posts of blah blah blah blah blah.

I can do anything when i lie too.

 

knees not over toes, body not leaning forward, and abs flexed but not sucked in. Tall people generally have a great leverage disadvantage and squatting is one of the most likely injury causing exercises for tall people.

high guard is nothing but a troll, i have no reason to show him respect.

What top boxers squat? can you name and post a source of one top heavy weight over 6ft that includes squatting in his routine?

 

I've heard squatting can give people knee troubles, but I must have been lucky because I've never had any knee problems from squats and I'm 6'3 or 6'4 (and I've been as high as 440 pounds on the squat).
But injuries often just luck and depends on the individual.
I've had more knee pain/swelling from running actually, bad so it wakes me up at night and I have to ice it loads. But even that has always subsided within a day or two and I'm back running with no problems.
And I've been up to 70 miles a week .... again, I've been lucky I suppose, as far as knees goes.

Shoulders and neck, my rear ribs, and hips/lower back, I've had more trouble ... but I don't attribute that all to exercise ... I believe sitting down typing on the computer has caused me more harm than any amount of hard exercise !

As for boxing and weight training, it depends on the individual needs and requirements of the boxer. I do believe every boxer trains with some sort of intense resistance exercise included.

 

thank you,