The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by salsanchezfan, Jun 10, 2011.


  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You beat me to it...
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On a pure level of skill,and signifigance,yes.
     
  3. Twelve

    Twelve Member Full Member

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    -Lennox Lewis doesn't sniff the top 10
    -Greb is so overrated it's nauseating and suicide-inducing
    -No one beats Gans at LW
    -Hagler would lose to Hopkins
     
  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Duran beat Hagler
    Monzon would lose to most great MWs, including guys like Leonard, Hearns, Jones etc.
    Bob Foster was nowhere near being great
    Ali's decline between '67 and '71 is massively over-stated
    Leonard would have beaten Hagler easily prime-for-prime
    Napoles would have pissed all over all but very few Welterweights in history
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    In terms of ability Zarate is a top 30 ATG
     
  6. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ray Robinson is #3 Pound for Pound beind 2.Prenell Whitaker and 1.Benny Leonard
    Roberto Duran is a great boxer but overrated
     
  7. PopeJackson

    PopeJackson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think any of those opinions are really unpopular. I've seen plenty that think these things, including myself on a few counts.
     
  8. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    What immediately came to mind is my feeling that:

    Leonard decisively whipped Hagler, like 8-4 or so, and that's with me being biased towards Hagler...

    Holmes thoroughly whipped Witherspoon. It wasn't close. Spoon only had one moment in the fight, and he let it slip away.

    More on second thought:

    Monzon is vastly overrated. He probably loses to most MW greats.

    The Ali decline '67-'71 is overrated.

    As great as Louis was (and as much respect I have for him), he would probably lose to Lewis, Tyson, Liston, and more. All for different reasons, of course...

    DelaHoya won vs Quartey by one point. It was close, but Oscar won.

    Chuvalo's chin is overrated. There are plenty of others who could take it better.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Benitez dominated Palomino
     
  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Okay, I'll play and give a serious answer. I would just slightly to quite strongly favor Larry Holmes best for best against all but 3 or 4 heavyweight champions in history. The ones I don't favor him against, I believe he could take 1/3 against in a trilogy. At his very best, conditioning, motivation, health, etc, that's how good I believe he would've been no matter who was in front of him. Just the right mix of will, skill and physical attributes that I believe he is H2H only really under Ali and maybe Louis, as an all around total package. :confIt's largely suspicion and that's why I wouldn't strongly argue for it, because he didn't have the ultimate opposition in his prime to really put it to the test, but deep down, I give him as much benefit of the doubt as I can give a fighter.
     
  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    leonard is over rated. robinson not.
     
  12. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano is overrated by many white boxing fans.
     
  13. Kittikasem

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    Marvin Hagler on his best night beats Monzon, Hopkins, Robinson, Greb, Jones, and anyone else who has ever fought at 160lbs. Hagler was one of the most complete fighters in history, there just wasn't sufficient natural mw opposition around in his era for him to conclusively prove this.
     
  14. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Is that an unpopular opinion? I always assumed that most who had seen this particular fight saw it as one of those clear,decisive fights that was incorrectly scored as a close fight by the judges.
     
  15. Armstrong!

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    H2H Henry Armstrong would beat any lightweight or welterweight in history. :deal