Down at Gallaghers Gym, Matthew Macklin is buzzing ahead of world title clash

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  1. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    He was much better. And the Seda fight was more than good. It's been said since the Sanchez fight was signed that it was a stay-sharp fight for Narvaez as he looks for bigger fights. So I don't know what your problem is exactly.
     
  2. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    :-(
     
  3. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A 12-1-1 guy who's best win is over 8 rounds should NOT be in a world title fight, stay busy, stay sharp or whatever that fight should not have been signed (unless Sanchez had been some amazing Amateur). Staying sharp is all good but 3 fights in 6 months is more than just staying sharp.

    The Seda fight was good, it should be the standard of opponent that Narvaez starts facing, it wasn't much better than good though.

    My problem is that he's hiding in Argentina when he should be in Mexico chasing down the likes of Cazares, both of the Rojas', Mijares...
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    You have a problem with a guy willing to fight 3 times in 6 months?
     
  5. avidlemon

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    Pissed the bed again!
     
  6. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what ????

    You are saying Matthew ' sweet pea' Macklin has a good defence??
     
  7. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    He fought Seda less than two months ago, and as he was unable to secure a big fight he signed up to fight Sanchez, who is decent. Pong gets credit for doing this, all the while fighting a much lower class of opposition. Nothing all that wrong with what he's done, seeing as he doesn't want to be inactive for half a year waiting for a fight at 35 years old.

    It was much better than good. He's had two defences of a high standard. Briceno was a good fight, and Seda was a great one. If you think that was only ''good'' I suggest you should look much more in depth into Seda.

    Both of the Rojas'? Do you mean Topo Rosas as one of them? I'm a massive Mijares fan, and I'll tell you that Rosas isn't on Seda's level, never mind the other's you mentioned. The fact he's fought Briceno and Seda in his last two fights, and is chasing after Cazares and Darchinyan, make it irrelevant what country he fights in.
     
  8. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not at all but if he's facing 12-1-1 guys in world title defences that haven't got experience under their belt then I have a problem with the title fight or using it as an excuse to stay busy. Stay busy in none title fights (a la Wonjongkam) or against guys with some experience, not a guy who was stopped by a novice just 5 fights ago. I like Narvaez and at his age he'll want to keep busy, but keep busy fighting top 25 type guys FFS. Using boxrec ratings Sanchez in outside the top 40 and Urina is barely inside the top 60!
     
  9. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    I saw no head movement in that vid either, am gutted.

    Am with ya Ray.
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Ah, I get ya. Yeah, probably shouldn't be racking up opponents like that counting towards title defences.
     
  11. sadlittleboy

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    Topo and Thomas. Both much more experienced than Seda and better equipped for a fight with Narvaez. You mean Zavaleta right, not Briceno? The country you fight in makes a difference, if you stay at home you'll miss out when none of the other guys will go down to meet you.
     
  12. rayrobinson

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    Thanks , it happeneds too many times in the UK , all agressive and offensive . This tends to get figured out within about 4 - 6 rounds by the world champions and then a late stoppage defeat, because their defence is wrotten,

    Peace.
     
  13. jpab19

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    I think the quality of opposition is much more important than whether or not a title is on the line. Are you saying that you'd rather he'd fight a 4-17 guy in a non-title bout rather than a decent fighter like Sanchez with a belt on the line? If that's the case, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

    I don't think I ever said it was amazing, but your description of it as merely good are off the mark. The previous two were good, this was a fight against the best fighter outside of the champions. He was most definitely ready, in his physical prime(which he himself stated after the loss) with dominant wins over the likes of Valdez, Soto, Lopez and Reyes had him more than prepared for fights against the best at 115lbs.




    I'll give you Tomas as I love him as a fighter, Topo, no way was he a better fighter than Seda. He's much more limited than Seda. Cesar has the size advantages, power, jab, and showed great shot selection on his way up, much more refined than Topo. Yes, apologies, Zaleta too, him and Briceno were good fights. If neither party is willing to travel, then it's not the fault of one fighter. Mijares won't leave Mexico for Argentina, Cazares won't leave Japan, and Rojas is going to fight Mijares next. Not exactly Omar's fault. He's stated that he's willing to travel to fight Vic, too.
     
  14. sadlittleboy

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    I'd like to see title fights to be fought against experienced guys who have stepped through the rankings. Sanchez is inexperienced (something his own team realised), too young and simple not ready for a title fight. So yeah I'd rather see Narvaez fighting a 4-17 guy in a 10 round stay busy fight than Sanchez in a world title bout. Personally I'd prefer it if he was managing to chase the meaningful fights, especially at his age.


    It was a "good" defense. Seda was, like Sanchez, inexperienced and ill prepared for a title fight. Physically he may have been in his prime, mentally though he wasn't ready for the fight.

    Soto has been a gatekeeper at best, Lopez was almost 40, Valdez had been stopped in his previous 3, Reyes had been in active for a year, was almost 40 and had been stopped several weights lower in his previous fight. So he was ill prepared through them as well.

    Topo may be more limited but he's also more experienced, something that pays dividends. If neither party it willing to travel but your coming to the end of your career and won't be remembered you should make the first move. I've not really followed him but is he really offering to go up to 118 to face Vic in the US?
     
  15. slapbangwhallop

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    Classy guy!