School me on British Boxing?

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  1. dcb154

    dcb154 Member Full Member

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    Hello Gents,

    The over-saturation of Pac-May in General has driven me to expand my lurking to other areas of this site. I'm not too familiar with the British Boxing scene, so I was hoping to perhaps get an overview from some of the regulars who have time to take on a greenhorn.

    How is your amateur scene? Do your standouts have as difficult time making the transition to the professional ranks as US fighters? Aside from Kahn's run in the olympic games which received so much publicity, how do your fighters fare in the Olympics? Any hopefuls for the upcoming ones?

    What professionals are flying under the radar that you think should and/or will breakout soon?

    Would love to see any clips that stand out...and if there are any Scottish fighters in particular that you'd recommend checking out, it'd be great to learn more about them too.

    Thanks for your time. :bbb
     
  2. Jonsey

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    British & Irish Divisional Rakings (June 8th 2011)


    Heavyweight (201lbs+)
    1. David Haye (WBA World Champion)*
    2. Derek Chisora (British & Commonwealth)
    3. Tyson Fury (English)
    4. Sam Sexton
    5. Martin Rogan
    6. John McDermott
    7. Audley Harrison
    8. David Price
    9. Michael Sprott
    10. Danny Williams
    11. Tom Dallas
    12. Larry Olubamiwo
    13. Dave Ferguson
    14. Coleman Barrett (Irish)
    15. Richard Towers


    Cruiserweight (200lbs)
    1. Ola Afolabi*
    2. Herbie Hide
    3. Enzo Maccarinelli
    4. Terry Dunstan (English)
    5. David Dolan
    6. Matty Askin
    7. Tyrone Wright
    8. Ian Timms (Irish)
    9. Tony Conquest
    10. Jon Lewis Dickinson
    11. Neil Dawson
    12. Leon Williams
    13. John Ibbitson
    14. JJ Ojuederie
    15. Michael Sweeney


    Light Heavyweight (175lbs)
    1. Nathan Cleverly (WBO Champion)*
    2. Danny McIntosh
    3. Tony Bellew (Commonwealth)
    4. Bob Ajisafe
    5. Ovil McEnzie
    6. Travis Dickinson
    7. Tony Dodson
    8. Steve McGuire
    9. Darren Stubbs
    10. Craig Denton
    11. Tony Jeffries
    12. Menay Edwards
    13. Ciaran Healy (Irish)
    14. Joe Smyth
    15. Matthew Barney


    Super Middleweight (168lbs)
    1. Carl Froch (WBC World Champion)*
    2. Brian Magee*
    3. George Groves (British & Commonwealth)*
    4. James DeGale
    5. Kenny Anderson (Celtic)
    6. Tony Quigley
    7. Paul David (English)
    8. Rocky Fielding
    9. Tobias Webb
    10. Daniel Cadman
    11. Paul Morby
    12. Jermaine Smyth
    13. Carl Dilks
    14. Robin Reid
    15. Jeff Evans


    Middleweight (160lbs)
    1. Matthew Macklin*
    2. Andy Lee*
    3. Darren Barker (European & British)*
    4. Craig McEwan
    5. Martin Murray (Commonwealth)
    6. Anthony Fitzgerald
    7. Patrick Mendy
    8. Paul Smith
    9. Gary O'Sullivan (Irish)
    10. Howard Eastman
    11. Nick Blackwell (English)
    12. Billy Joe Saunders
    13. Matt Hainy
    14. Tony Hill
    15. Craig Denton


    Light Middleweight (154lbs)
    1. Ryan Rhodes*
    2. Prince Aaron (British)
    3. Sam Webbe
    4. James Moore
    5. Tony Doran
    6. Max Maxwell
    7. Brian Rose (English)
    8. Neil Sinclair (Irish)
    9. Joe Selkirk
    10. Brett Flournoy
    11. Joe McNally
    12. Martin Concepcion
    13. Steve O'Meara
    14. Kris Carlshaw
    15. Thomas Costello


    Welterweight (147lbs)
    1. Kell Brook*
    2. Matthew Hatton
    3. Michael Jennings
    4. Denton Vassel (Commonwealth)
    5. Lee Purdy (British)
    6. Craig Watson
    7. Yassine El Maachi
    8. Colin Lynnes
    9. John O’Donnell
    10. Junior Witter
    11. Kevin McIntyre (Celtic)
    12. Adil Anwar
    13. Bradley Pryce
    14. Gary McMillian
    15. Michael Lomax


    Light Welterweight (140lbs)
    1. Amir Khan (WBA World Champion)*
    2. Paul McCloskey*
    3. Ajose Olusegun
    4. Ashely Theophane (British)
    5. Lenny Daws
    6. Jason Cook
    7. Nigel Wright (English)
    8. Frankie Gavin (Irish)
    9. Steve Williams
    10. Darren Hamilton
    11. Nicki Smedley
    12. Lee McAllister
    13. Karl Place
    14. Barry Morrison
    15. Tyrone Nurse


    Lightweight (135lbs)
    1. John Murray*
    2. Gavin Rees (European)
    3. Anthony Crolla (British)
    4. Andy Murray
    5. Derry Matthews (English)
    6. Alex Arthur
    7. Willie Limmond
    8. John Watson
    9. Martin Gethin
    10. Ryan Brawley
    11. Gary McArthur
    12. Ben Murphy
    13. Dean Byrne
    14. Tony Owen
    15. Tomy Coyle


    Super Featherweight (130lbs)
    1. Ricky Burns (WBO World Champion)*
    2. Gary Buckland
    3. Gary Skykes (British)
    4. Nicky Cook
    5. Stephen Foster Jnr
    6. Liam Walsh (Commonwealth)
    7. Carl Johanesson
    8. Andy Morris
    9. Paul Truscott
    10. Paul Appleby
    11. John Kays
    12. Kevin O'Hara
    13. Stephen Ormond
    14. Troy James
    15. Lee Selby


    Featherweight (125lbs)
    1. Stephen Smith (British & Commonwealth)
    2. John Simpson
    3. Martin Lindsay
    4. Patrick Hyland (Irish)
    5. Ricky Owen
    6. Kris Hughes
    7. Chris Male
    8. Joe Murray
    9. Ryan Walsh
    10. Terry Flannigan
    11. Lee Glover
    12. James Ancliff
    13. Del Rogers
    14. Mickey Convey
    15. Martin Ward


    Super Bantamweight (122lbs)
    1. Rendall Munroe*
    2. Jason Booth (British & Commonwealth)
    3. Willie Casey
    4. Scott Quigg
    5. Carl Frampton (Celtic)
    6. Paul Hyland (Irish)
    7. Robbie Turley
    8. Rhys Roberts
    9. Gavin Ried
    10. Mark Moran
    11. Josh Warrington
    12. Davey Savage Jnr
    13. Josh Warrington
    14. Paul Economides
    15. Marc Callaghan


    Bantamweight (118lbs)
    1. Jamie McDonnell (European & Commonwealth)*
    2. Stuart Hall (British)
    3. Ian Napa
    4. Gary Davies
    5. Craig Lyon (English)
    6. Josh Wale
    7. Michael Walsh
    8. John Donnelly
    9. Martin Power
    10. Kid Galahad


    Super Flyweight (115lbs)
    1. Lee Haskins (British & Commonwealth)
    2. Andy Bell
    3. Ross Burkinshaw
    4. Don Broadhurst
    5. Mike Robinson
    6. Jamie Conlan
    7. James Mulhern
    8. Phil Smith
    9. Kevin Satchell
    10. Paul Butler


    Flyweight (112lbs)
    1. Shinny Bayaar
    2. Paul Edwards (British)
    3. Ashley Sexton (English)
    4. Chris Edwards (Commonwealth)
    5. Luke Wilton
    6. Usman Ahmed
    7. Kevin Colgan
    8. Jamie Dickens
    9. Kyle King
    10. Brad Watson
     
  3. Jonsey

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    Amateur scene is as good as its ever been. we got 3 medals at the last olympics (james degale - gold, tony jeffries & david price - bronze) out of 7 qualifiers. we should beat that for 2012 olympics which is in london. the current coach is rob mccracken who is carl frochs trainer.

    we have 5 current world champions. haye, cleverly, froch, khan and ricky burns who is scottish. ryan rhodes and matthew macklin have world title fights this month.

    other fighters close to world title fights would be darren barker, kell brook and the winner of john murray vs kevin Mitchell which takes place in July.

    the best prospects currently in my opinion would be.

    David Price, George Groves, James DeGale, Billy Joe Saunders, Frankie Gavin, Stephen Smith, Joe Murray, Scott Quigg and Carl Frampton are the best prospects all with around 10-15 fights. Many would expect these guys to compete at world level eventually.

    the main advantage british boxing has over other countries particularly the US is that we have a proper route towards winning a world title as the domestic titles are taken very seriously by fans, promoters and most importantly Sky TV the only broadcaster of boxing in the UK apart from the odd show. its very rare that a british fighter will get to world level without at least winning one of the British/Commonwealth or European titles.
     
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    ricky burns mate he takes on all comers, and would ko a prime duran and chavez sr on the same night.
     
  5. dcb154

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    I had no idea...boxing gets so little press on this side. That's great your amateurs are doing so well, I will certainly keep an eye out for the names you gave me.

    Your note about exposure is really interesting. It seems like it's a much more "unified" front in terms of rites of passage. You're lucky you get to see the progression of your fighters as we generally only get to see them when they are breaking out, or have already broken out.

    So it sounds like there's a strong following in Britain for the sport in general? I can only find very small pockets of interest where I am, and that's on the individual basis.

    Is there a way to access Skye via the internet? I used to enjoy seeing the young up and comers back when USA Tuesday Night Fights when I was a kid.

    Thank you for the wealth of information...look forward to following a new side of the sport.
     
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    I like the enthusiasm!:bbb Looks like he has a tough one coming up next month. If there is any way to catch these fights online, it'd be great to check him out.

    Thanks.
     
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    he was being sarcastic.
     
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAPpVNdbeLw&feature=related[/ame]

    our 2008 olympic bronze medalist in a fight with another undefeated preospect, ill post the whole fight (2 rounds:yep) when its up on youtube:good

    he was being sarcastic about burns, he won a world title with a career best performance if a fight where he was the under dog and on the 16th he has his 3rd joke defence on the trot
     
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    no i wasnt, you just wait i'll prove you wrong you english *******.
     
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    Now where's me pie and cake gone aye? :think
     
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    he moves awkwardly but he get the job done so far. he loosk like he willget beaten soon. i just hope he can cash it in with another world champion. that way if he does get lucky he can keep the ball rolling instead of being stopped on cuts in a leisure centre somewhere to a commonwealth ghanian, who will come in with a record of 17-3-2 8koes.




    ANNNYWAYS



    yeah our domestic scene has the lonsdale a belt (if you defend the british belt 3 times) which you get a retirement fund at the end of your career.. it's not a lot but a lot of world champions have regretted not going for it. it's considered prestigious and every fighter who has got it but 1...which i wont name, has a history.
     
  12. EnzoRD

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    Yes, if you know someone with a Sky subscription. Then you use their username and password.

    But, there is a hell of fights posted on youtube. So just type in some of the names and I'm sure you'll see them.

    Also type in "Ringside" into youtube. A British boxing program, many episodes are uploaded.
     
  13. DrMo

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    Kell Brook is the future:deal

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3aRzxMT7XQ[/ame]
     
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    Kell Brook's going to get chinned when he steps up to the top level. :deal
     
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    Kell is thpecial, wait and thee ;)