How would Jess Willard have done in the 80's?

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Time machine his ass to fight the following in 12 rounders and 20 rounders:

    Spinks (HW)
    Tubbs
    Tucker
    Thomas
    Bruno

    Pray tell.
     
  2. Armstrong!

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    I think he'd do alright. He'd probably lose to Spinks, Tubbs, and Tucker, but beat Thomas and Bruno. :conf
     
  3. janitor

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    He could beat any of these guys but in reality he probably gets mixed results.
     
  4. Muchmoore

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    Possibly loses to all of them if he was just time machined forward...
    Give him time to adjust to the new rule set and he'd do better, but his style certainly better suited long distance fights.
     
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  6. janitor

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    I might call the cards differently.

    I could see him beating Spinks and loosing to Thomas.
     
  7. Seamus

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    I definitely think Spinks would hit him very hard and have a good chance at sparking him out. Tubbs would win a lot of rounds but might be buried late as Jess comes on, especially over 20 rounds. Thomas had too much game for him, I believe. Tucker would win a boring decision. And Bruno, get ready for this, would stop him in grisly fashion with Jess standing but half his face hanging off.
     
  8. janitor

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    The only way Spinks could stop him is with a baseball bat.

    Bruno would fail to put Willard away and gas late.

    I see Tucker, Tubbs and Thomas as being the tougher matches for him.
     
  9. Seamus

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    I think Spinks still hit hard at heavy when he committed to it. I think his speed could be too much for Willard. Now, if he fought Jess as he did Holmes, different scenario, I agree.

    I think Frank would pulverize him, causing a lot of damage and a modern ref to stop the proceedings, all this before he would have the opportunity to gas.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    He didn't show the technical or punching abilities to beat any of these guys over 12 rounds.

    Might win 1 with a pole-axe KO but overall he would do very badly.

    Whip those guys back to Willard's day, different ball game.
     
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  14. janitor

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    I think that Willard might just be the most under rated heavyweight champion head to head on this forum.

    The guy hit as hard as Wlad, had a chin like Vitally, and essentialy had the same big fighter skillset as most of the modern superheavyweights.

    Why would you think that any fighter on that list would have an easy time with him?
     
  15. SonnyListonsJab

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    Willard's chin is not totally proven. The only two punchers he fought...Dempsey and Firpo..both knocked him out early. I question big time him having an "iron" chin. I seriously doubt it.

    Also, willard in his prime was not that good. He got easily outpointed by journeyman light-heavyweights like tom mcmahon and lost to george yodel and gunboat smith.


    Willard does not look good on film. He looks like a tough farm boy to me. The 1980s heavyweights are way to talented and skilled for him. Willard never had to deal with a long powerful left jab in his face. The 1980s may not be in excellent condition, but they don't need to be to go 12-15 rounds. Many of these men witherspoon, tubbs, thomas, tucker all had excellent chins and would not be sparked out by 1 crude willard punch. Most of them would shutout Willard on the cards, some would stop him late. I think Willard might catch a few of the 2nd tier 1980s heavyweights, but the elite heavyweights would outclass him.