Conn VS Tunney

I'll pick the bigger Tunney over Conn in a tactical fight of interest, yet has me yawning at certain times....... This has 15 rd. decision for Tunney written all over it........

TUNNEY!:bbb:deal

MR.BILL:hat

 

Tunney, just better

 

I think Tunney would dictate at what range the fight happens and that´s the decider. Tunney UD Conn.

 

Tunney would be a bit too much for Conn. Once again, the overriding word discipline would describe the difference between the two. Conn had more swagger and flash, but Tunney's more conservative style would win him the decision IMO.

 

Tunney does not display better skill and movement than Conn on film. I see no evidence that tunney was 'better'. Conn has the better resume too, and fought black fighters unlike gene tunney. I personally feel Conn looks like the more fluid of the two.

Gene's style was built on fighting smaller older fighters, being able to use his physical advantages to keep the fighters on the outside the whole fight to make up for his limited inside game. Against the 6'2 young, who would be able to match Tunney in physical tools, Tunney would not be able to keep Conn at the end of a jab. A 19 year old Loughran actually outboxed Tunney, and tunney never rematched him later on. I think Conn could do the same, especially capitalizing on Tunney's low gaurd. I like the more fluid conn to land the cleaner effective blows throughout the fight and win a close decision.

Conn 15 majority Tunney

 

Your personal dislike for Tunney makes your arguments irrational and almost childish in their obstinance. :nono Your complete lack of objectivity clouds your judgement badly.

 

I gave much more thorough reasoning than you did. You have a unhealthy obsession with Tunney that makes it nearly impossible for you to accept Tunney losing in fantasy fights without resorting to name calling. Take your head out of Tunney's *******. :good


Conn close decision over Tunney is my pick. Deal with it! :good

 

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You won't be taken seriously until you grow up and develop a sense of objectivity...your opinion of Tunney centers around your resentment of him as a "cultured elitist, stuck up snob", or something of that nature that you mentioned in one of your previous silly posts. I for one am a HUGE fan of Billy Conn, yet I don't let that cloud my judgement in the case of this hypothetical matchup..you need to master your childish emotions troll..until you do, all you're doing is debasing rhe quality of the Classic Forum like your peers D.T. and other like minded clowns.

 

If you disagree with my prediction of Conn over Tunney, please state why. Otherwise take Tunney's dick out of your mouth and your homer glasses off..

I think Conn showed tremendous discipline in outboxing many hall of famers throughout his career. If your afraid of Conn walking into a trap, well Gene was nowhere near the puncher Joe Louis was, so I think we can rule out Gene finishing Conn. I think Gene would have big issues with Conn's movement, use of angles, combinations, and left jab. A teenage Tommy Loughran gave Tunney all kinds of trouble with his jab, movement and skills...I think Conn would do an even better job. Tunney would be in the ring with a man who could match him in physical tools, movement and speed. Tunney would be the one flustered and forced to adapt, not Conn. I think Tunney keeping his hands low while Conn keeps a higher guard is a key point, as the more fundamentally sound is going to be able to land the cleaner sharper blows while avoiding many of tunney's fast darts.

 

I won't dignify your obscene posts anymore with any further discussion, just

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troll!:hi:

 

"Conn makes more mistakes in a minute than Ramage makes in a whole fight." Gene was smarter than Billy was (an assessment Conn himself may well have agreed with), and certainly more disciplined and controlled than Billy was. All those mistakes Blackburn and Louis described Conn as making would have easily been deciphered and readily exploited by Tunney. Billy may well have been more talented than Gene, but Teddy Yaroz thrice gave him major headaches. Gene had a significantly longer reach than Conn and would have exploited that advantage to the hilt. Nobody outboxed Tunney, and if MW great Teddy Yaroz could UD Conn, then Gene certainly could have turned the trick.

 

A 19 year old Tommy Loughran did, there is a great read on the fight from Philadelphia Inquirer describing how Loughran outboxed Tunney. I think Conn clear and away fought the stiffer competition of the two and challenged himself far more than Gene did. I don't think Tunney has anything Conn hasn't already seen while the same can't be said for Gene in regards to Conn.

 

I'm kind of reserved about the accounts of that one, as accounts vary according to whether or not it was Tommy's Philly partisans or sportswriters from Gene's NYC doing the reporting. What's not in dispute is that Tunney decked Loughran in the opening round, and wobbled him a number of times. If Gene had not retired when he did, then I believe LHW Champ Loughran should have been his next challenger. Yes, the case might be made that Tommy outboxed him in 1922, but both improved considerably by 1928. Half a dozen years can easily be an eternity in boxing.

Gene did challenge himself against Greb, clashing with Harry repeatedly until conclusively getting the upper hand on the fifth try. It was on the heels of this that he took a fading Tommy Gibbons to the woodshed for the movie cameras and radio audience. Certainly Conn never saw the likes of Greb.