A Phoenix Rising From The Ashes

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  1. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What fighters ascended to glory exceeding what was expected of them following devastating, decisive defeats?

    For example, Floyd Patterson was annihilated twice by Sonny Liston, losing his title and getting the exclamation mark put on the perception of his shaky chin.

    And yet, while never getting his title back, he fought on to the best wins of his career, and the most stirring performances.

    Who else?
     
  2. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Tyson raging on after the douglas defeat
     
  4. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran is a lock for number 1 & Foreman is as good a mention.
     
  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bobby Chacon's career resurgence in the early eighties...awesome. Screamed myself hoarse at the tv.
     
  6. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    Archie Moore easily...getting knocked out in his late twenties by Eddie Booker, Jimmy Bivins, and getting destroyed by Charley Burley...only to rebound, get better, and go on to post his best career wins in his mid-late 30s. Fighters in their late 20s who suffer 3 devastating defeats today are told to retire, not fight on win a world title at age 36 and defend their title for the next decade...thier is only one archie moore
     
  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Tommy Morrison rebounded a lot better than I thought he would after that brutal loss to Mercer. I thought he was ruined. That was really an excellent rebuilding job they did on the guy and brought him back to top contention. And a lot of resilience and hard work by Tommy to climb back. I thought he was done like Tate was after the Weaver fight.
     
  8. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Duran IS the phoenix

    indeed
     
  9. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since El Cholo has already been brought up, the devastated knockout victims here went on to later be acclaimed as the P4P best in the world. I was no longer following boxing much by then, but was P4P number one status projected for either of these two following these setbacks?:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pa1H_TLmU[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Id6-oOY1U[/ame]

    Because Bobby Chacon has been mentioned, one of his stoppage victims also deserves merit: Danny Lopez. When Sanchez dethroned Little Red years later, one of the boxing magazine headlines trumpeted, "Lopez burns in Phoenix. Can he rise from the ashes?" As it turned out, he couldn't. But because of what he achieved after Chacon, nobody was writing him off before the rematch with Sal had taken place. Chacon-Lopez is readily available on youtube now. After three defeats in nine months, any title glory must have seemed far off for Little Red.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kronk fighters in general :yep
    But there were some other good mentions in this thread.
     
  11. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    Nice calls Duodenum, Lopez slipped my mind a bit. Speaking of Pacquiao and of Lopez never rising again after Sanchez brings Barrera to the fore concerning his post-Jones and post-Pacquaio ledgers. To see him rise to the heights he did against Hamed and Morales after such bad defeats was wonderful to behold even if his transition into master boxer is a bit overstated at times.

    Pedroza is another one when you look at the icing Zamora gave him at bantam as well the two other KO losses. To think that he went on to such things as the Ford masterclass. I don't think Old Bones Brown gets enough acknowledgement either in this regard when you consider the nature of the Saddler, Bratton, Araujo losses etc. Remarkable career all in all, a bit like a smaller version of Moore or Jersey Joe in some ways. His title reign is well underrated imo.

    There was that Joseph Barrow bloke as well; he didn't do too badly for himself in the wake of all those scud missiles coming from that nice German fellow's right mitt for 12 rounds....
     
  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought of that, but since MagnaNasakki specified, "exceeding what was expected of them," I didn't feel the Bomber could qualify.

    Chacon was widely considered a classic underachiever earlier in his career. After Arguello and Boza-Edwards I, he then appeared to clearly be completely washed up, and boxing publications released their obituary tributes on Schoolboy. Coming back against Limon and Boza Edwards, then finishing his career with a four year 7(KO 5)-0-0 streak (retiring Art Frias with a seventh round knockout on the way) after Mancini, is one of the most wildly ridiculous and surrealistically weird finishes of any HOFer. (What would he have done with that kind of latter career discipline and conditioning throughout his career?) It seems mind boggling that Chacon was Mancini's final victory at age 22, and Bobby's final defeat at 32.
     
  13. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is the Poonix
     
  14. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I expect better from you, that was '****'

    give me props
     
  15. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frankie Duarte, Freddie Pendleton, Danny Lopez, Mickey Ward, George Foreman