weight lifting...why such different views on it in boxing???????

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  1. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    you must be black :smoke
     
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  2. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldn't have expressed it better, U
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This.
     
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  4. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah ofcourse i have quite a few guys like this
    its not uncommon

    but then again i have seen guys who run a lot
    but the stamia is not there.

    i am a little odd here, running wise my stamia
    sucks but i can go a lot of rounds.

    maybe its cause i pace myself or who knows
    but its really strange


    but about the techique and rolling with punches etc
    ofcourse this is the number 1 thing and weights or running will never replace it

    but for some reason people only mention this argument when the discussion turns to weightlifting
    but they never say anything like this when talking about running.


    oddly enough a friend of my mine who boxes at the same place as people
    runs a ton, throws a million punches a round on the heavybag, and also when shadow boxing

    but when sparring,
    his footwork is good, but the rest of the techique sucks
    doesnt throw punches properly often, chin up sometimes
    bad defence.

    he has like 70 amauter fights and a hard to spar because of his footwork and workrate
    but still its not just the weightlifter types who often neglect techique
     
    highguard, Jun 17, 2011
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  5. goat15

    goat15 Active Member Full Member

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    of course. look at clottey, always talking about how far he runs, who cares.
     
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  6. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is it possible, that the problem with weight training is not so much the training itself, but the ethic behind it? I get the opinion that most people do the weight training because it means that they will get stronger and be able to hit harder. For those that train and are good (and dont totally neglect other areas). Subconciously, this means that fighters are going in with the ethic to sit down on every punch and take an opponents head off.

    I think post prison tyson is an example of this. Whereas the reality is that it is far more important for fighters to throw punches as quickly as possible, in combination and with proper technique and timing. Like pre prison tyson used to.
     
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  7. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good post
     
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  8. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what did you think of the videos i posted
     
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  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To answer the thread question; it's because boxing is a very conservative sport. Why it is, I don't really know. Perhaps it has a conservative core following. When you see the threads in the lounge it's certainly easy to get that perception.

    I don't think this debate is at all as heated and infected in sports like wrestling, mma, tennis, (real) football, American football, baseball, basketball etc. Even golf, who one would think would be the mother of all conservative sports, weight lifting has come to be accepted in a wholly different way.
     
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  10. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I know a 70 year old man who lifts and runs daily and looks and operates like a 50 year old. Proper core lifts can really strengthen you for life. I've been trying to get back into it since i broke my back and wrist, and it's definitely made a difference.
     
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  11. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes good point

    weights become even more important as you get older
     
    highguard, Jun 21, 2011
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  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was sparring with a guy who's some 20+ lbs north of my weight tonight, and really felt how important the core strength is when you have to hold off the charges. And dead lifts really helps you with that.
     
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  13. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah dead lifts and squats
    really help your core
     
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