How much of a chance to you give Judah to beat Khan?

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    I just don't think the kid is smart enough. He has one gear, and whatever Roach tells him, he doesn't seem to be able to put it all together. Over reaching, shocking feet (which obviously leads to terrible punching form) add up to a pretty sloppy output, and those factors are only going to get him in trouble.

    I couldn't believe it after the Maidana fight, 'Wow look at all these improvements', 'his chin has improved big time, he's got a good chin hasn't he' and 'he looks slicker now, he outboxed Maidana like an expert' are all exaggerated versions of the kinda' **** that some folks still believe.

    He's learnt to raise his hands to defend himself, no ****!
     
  2. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Oh my.
     
  3. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I have a foot fetish in boxing...sometimes all i do is watch a fighters feet and let me tell you that Khans feet are very poor. The shots he gets hit with are actually due to his poor foot positioning.

    People just watch a guy move around a lot and then think oh, he must have good feet. Khan has FAST feet but not GOOD feet. There's a difference. Watch Khan circle and you'll notice he has poor rythm on his feet and just moves rather then knowing what he should be doing whilst on the move. Someone with good feet doesn't circle into power punches the way Khan does. He also traps himself on the ropes voluntarily due to his poor feet. He circles far too wide with his feet which causes energy waste and poor positioning. Someone with good feet boxes in tight circles with them. Bradley actually has better feet then Khan. Just look past the smoke n mirrors of Khan moving a lot very fast.

    Why does Khan have poor balance? because of his poor footwork. Just look closer and you'll notice his hands and feet are not in sink.
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Agreed, one of the worst things I have ever seen.
     
  5. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A good chance 35-40%, but Zab's best days are behind him no matter how much of a great run he is on now, Zab would of not faced anyone as fast as Khan since fighting Floyd.

    Khan could end Zab's career.
     
  6. FrochFan7

    FrochFan7 Expert In Stucco Full Member

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    Did I someone just compare Khan to Roy Jones? :rofl
     
  7. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Absolute rubbish, technically superior......:lol: Froch is slow, plodding, no handspeed, shocking footwork hence he gets repeatedly tagged all the time. His defense consists of blocking punches with his face and his power is vastly over-rated. He also fights in straight lines, you've been obviously conned into thinking Froch has skill because he attempts to imitate RJJ, except he looks like a RJJ on prozac!!! Froch doesn't have the speed, the reflexes or the athleticism to pull it off and quite frankly looks awful. Froch was schooled against Dirrell, Taylor and will be against Ward. He lost to a faded champ in Kessler and don't mention the Abraham fight, please. It really is not hard to look like SRL against the one-dimensional plodder like King Arthur..... As for the Johnson fight, he went life & death with a 44 year old :lol:

    Froch has also been the very fortunate recipient of two gift hometown decisions in his career , if either Dirrel or the Pascal fights had been in the USA or Canada Froch would have lost those fights :deal

    Also I like how you conveniently rate the calibre of Khan's opposition by his worst opponents......
     
  8. Flea Man

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    I wonder how many of those attributes you've listed apply to Khan except for handspeed? And then some :think

    And Khan didn't exactly look like SRL in his fight with a one dimensional plodder either :deal

    I don't rate him by his best opponents, they were merely indicators if someone whos good run of form doesn't get anywhere near Frochs.

    Again, did I say Carl Froch was technically very good. Read my post again.

    No, I just said Khan was even worse. Why don't we go through all of his technical errors? His 'power'? His 'defence'?

    Your point about hometown decisions, whilst agreeing that the other two would also win hometown decisions if they were at hom, is pathetic. There is also no way Pascal won the fight, Froch outmanouvered down the stretch and used his angled jab to fend him off when the two weren't slugging it out.

    Now, get ****ed :deal
     
  9. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was going to say I thought a decent chance but to be honest this comment and another one lower down about Judah having overrated power make more sense.Zab has never really cut it when it matters.He will give Khan a few probs early but Roach will have advised Khan strongly on what not to do with this guy and if he sticks to that Amir will start to turn it his way after 3 rounds.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Even if Zab had 'overrated power' (and he's no Paul Fuji) he'd still have more enough to warrant a strong argument in a fight with Amir.
     
  11. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan tooks some clean punches and was still standing, It is fair to say that his chin has improved considering he was wobbled by a jab from Prescott.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Improved from, no joke, one of the worst chins I have ever seen to, still a below average chin at best at the top level.

    Can't see him doing too much at World level, he's too precarious to be a truly dominant force at 140 IMO, and anything past it will see him get smashed up by lesser fighters.

    He just doesn't look to be a top, top fighter IMO, but I love his determination, heart and fighting spirit. That, and his sick handspeed, is what makes him a pretty potent force at the top of a division which has depth, but not the kind of guy that's going to set the World on fire.
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    If Froch loses to Ward then yes.
     
  14. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    So I guess you reckon Froch's excuse for his loss to Kessler was pathetic then as he claimed Mikel was the beneficiary of a homecooked decision. Bless him, Carl also said that if the fight had happened in Nottingham the judges would have awarded him the fight. Think Carl appreciated the irony of that statement?

    As for Froch's supposed good run of form, you must set the bar a hell of a lot lower for the Cobra than you do for Khan judging by his recent performances.

    Oh, one last thing, **** it, I can't even be bothered....
     
  15. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Your analysis of a fighter is always A class, Slip :good