Ortiz vs Clottley?

Ortiz wins by close but competetive decision

 

And what does that mean? Does it mean Ortiz beats Clottey, becasue he has a better win in your opinion? :huh

 

Clottey in my opinion

 

And getting KD in that win against Berto (not a good fighter). As I told Clottey should be the favorite in this fight, just cause Clottey looked bad against an all time great Pacquiao does not mean he will be the same against other lesser fighters like Ortiz.

 

Not saying that im just sayin that its not a run away win for Clottey like some people wanna claim. ill go even further and say its mainly cause alot of you despise Matweather and refuse to give him credit for fighting a dangerous fight like ortiz and somehow this just makes you all feel better ..... and its not opinion , berto is a better fighter than anyone clottey has managed to get a win against ...sorry.

 

Berto was an undefeated champion and has better wins than Clottey as well.

 

Clottey takes his own life when Ortiz shows up in the ring like a man possessed

 

:rofl

 

And what does you saying "Ortiz' win is better then anything Clottey's done" mean then? That it's a run away win for Ortiz?

atsch Jesus....WTF is it with you floyd fanboys who love to tell posters what they think?

I've stated why I think Floyd wins this. Ortiz brings NOTHING FLoyd hasn't already dealt with. All Ortiz has is "Youth and hunger". No real experience in tough fights. No championship rounds expereince. Never dealt with anyone NEARLY as good a fighter as floyd or with Floyd's own expereince. One fight at WW. Against a guy who was heavily criticized for being protected by HBO. That is who Floyd is fighting.

Why not tell us exacty what Ortiz brings to the table, other then an UNKOWN factor or potential, which may or may not even come to fruition.

But if you'd rather act like a floyd fanboy and talk ****, that's fine. About all you guys do. :roll:

Judah?

 

Clottey has a win over the former undisputed WW champ. You know, the one Floyd beat after losing his belts.

Berto was goven a lot of flack for his being pampered by HBO and Al Haymon, and rightfuly so. But I have a feeling you are more impressed by udefeated fighters then one with a loss or two. :roll:

 

First and foremost i never even said ortiz would win the damn fight i just pointed out the fact he has already beat a better welter than clottey has and im a not a fan of mayweather at all ,i actually cant stand his attitude and find him quite disrespectful so you can quite that ****. Im a fan of boxing not a cheerleader for fighters like you seem to be. Clottey is a choke artist and does not win big fights...the fact that judah who is a damn 140 lber and clottey is a damn jr middle weight says a lot for his only quality win doesnt it. and of course mayweather beats ortiz i never stated he wasnt going to just think its a better fight than some washed up recycled fighter.

 

You an keep saying that Ortiz beat a better WW then any Clottey has, but it's meaningless to try and use as a fact, since that's simply your opinion. Clottey's win over Judah trumps a win over Berto. Sorry, how it is.

And no, the attitude youve taken suggestes you are more a floyd fan then one of pac, or "the sport" as you put it.:roll:

And clottey is NOT a shoke artist. He lost to better fighters. It's as simple as that. The fact you say he's a choke artists suggets you aren't very capable of looking at something for what is it, without adding any outside bull**** to it. But if he was a choke artist, why'd he beat Judah?

Judah WAS a 140er and moved to WW. He was a WW when he fought Clottey.

NOw I am not calling Judah a great anything. But it's still a better win then a win over an highly protected Berto.

 

Zab judah lost to carlos baldomir after winning his belt from spinks who has gone 3 outta 6 after fighting Judah, im not trying to make that look like a good win for mayweather cause it isnt, and when judah fought clottey he was 3 and 2 with one no contest in his last 6 and weighed 143 lbs when they fought ...damn clotteys a badass mofo.

 

And? Zab still made it to a certain level as a pro, one Ortiz has not. And Zab losing to better fighters while Berto beats scrubs means...Berto is better then Judah? :huh

 

some people are referencing the pac fight on how ortiz would dominate clottey the same way. this is flawed, ortiz does not have the same workrate as pac to make clottey respect him. clottey-cotto is more the appropriate reference.