the uk will have 9 world champs by the end of the year!

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  1. FistsOfFury

    FistsOfFury Active Member Full Member

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    Congratulations. Excellent observation. I'm sold. It's likelier you will have 9 champions instead of none because Ricky Burns beat Martinez. :roll:
     
  2. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good point!
     
  3. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Congratulations. Excellent misquote. It's likely that you missed the part where I said it's highly unlikely we have 9 world champions by the end of the year and I expect some of our current champions to lose.

    Some people, honestly.
     
  4. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol haye is gonna get beat the **** up. ill laugh at rhodes after tonight. i mean cmon lol he couldnt even beat gary lockett. alvarez is young but he is ready
     
  5. Shmoopy

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    :huh 3 of em' will get KTFO in july :lol:

    David Gaye
    Amir Khan

    and Tyson Fury or the Woman Beater Delboy :yep

    maybe Gaye could fight Delboy after he smacks Fury around :think

    :lol:

    or are you talking about London based titles :huh

     
  6. FistsOfFury

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    I didn't miss anything. You called a guy an idiot for stating it was more likely they have zero champs than nine. That's a perfectly reasonable statement. Only an idiot would disagree.
     
  7. Ilesey

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    He is an idiot, and so are you. You actually quoted me saying Burns was an underdog as if I was somehow justifying Britain having 9 world champions by the end of the year. Look at what you posted you ****ing imbecile. If you took the time to read that it's actually more realistic that the likes of Burns, Khan and Cleverly are likely to be champions by the end of the year. That's not an unreasonable assessment given that two Brits are fighting for one of the titles and the fact that they won't be rushing Cleverly in typical FW style.
     
  8. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. FistsOfFury

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    You have some serious reading comprehension problems. At no point did I accuse you of thinking Britain will have 9 champions. I called you up for calling a guy and idiot for making a perfectly reasonable statement. It IS more realistic they have zero champions than they have nine. Both are unlikely although one is a lot more unlikely that the other. So why is he an idiot for making a perfectly reasonable statement? I didn't see you calling the OP an idiot, is it perhaps because his post painted British fighters in a good light, whereas the other guy did the opposite.
     
  10. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    British boxing is about to take a major hit in the next 5 months..
     
  11. ApatheticLeader

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    Haye - No

    Khan - Most probably.

    Froch - I'd love it, but no.

    Burns - Yes, due to him fighting poor opposition as champ.

    Cleverly - Yes, probably due to him fighting poor opp as champ.

    Macklin - Ireland is not in the UK. And even if it was, he stands NO hope against Sturm. He maybe would have stood a small chance a few years ago, but he's regressed.

    Rhodes - No

    Barker - Hahaha, oh hell no.

    Brook - Difficult to say, it's a leap of faith to suggest he'll win a belt. There's better talent around.
     
  12. Ilesey

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    I disagree that it is more likely for Britain to have 0 champions as opposed to 9. I think that Froch beats Ward, Khan beats Judah, Burns and Cleverly retain with Haye, Rhodes and Macklin all in with a shout albeit not the betting favourites. But neither was Burns, but according to you this is somehow unreasonable (even though actually Burns upset the odds when in the same position as Rhodes, Haye and Macklin). Vnyc was acting a **** which was why I called him an idiot (like I've already ****ing explained). And yes OP is being unrealistic if he thinks we actually have 9 champions at the end of the year.
     
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    :yep
     
  14. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exactly!:yep
     
  15. FistsOfFury

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    It is unreasonable. Burns was an upset. Yes it can happen. Can it happen on several occasions? Highly unlikely, and if you gamble, you work the odds. So let's take what would be required for each scenario to occur.

    You wouldn't consider Froch and Haye wins as upsets but you're in the minority there. Both the general consensus here and by the odds the bookies are giving. So they should be classed as upsets.

    So we need the following upsets to happen.

    Rhodes to beat Canelo.
    Haye to beat Wlad.
    Froch to beat Ward.
    Macklin to beat Sturm.
    Barker to beat Martinez.

    Now for Scenario B. You'd need the following to upsets to occur.
    Judah to beat Khan.
    Burns to lose his title. (He has his mandatory against Eloy Perez coming up)
    Cleverly to lose his title.

    Do you really think Scenario A is more likely to happen than Scenario B. Come on man. That's ridiculous.