The top 30 (at least) at each weight , including P4P

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, he's serious!:-(
     
    JAB5239, Jun 17, 2011
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  2. Armstrong!

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    He's serious?





















    Alright. I'm out.
     
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  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, believe me I know how you feel. Just wait till he explains his reasoning, THAT is a real treat! :thumbsup
     
    JAB5239, Jun 17, 2011
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  4. Armstrong!

    Armstrong! Active Member Full Member

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    There's a reasoning? :lol::lol:

    How can there be a reasoning for Valuev above Ali? :rofl
     
    Armstrong!, Jun 17, 2011
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  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Valuev would have been way to big for Ali, and Ali got to many close decisions and was one of the dirtiest fighters ever. It will go something like that. Ask him about Oliver McCall. I think he use to have McCline in his top 10 to, he might have dropped him a bit.

    I really don't think he trolling though. I think he actually believes his own logic. :nut
     
    JAB5239, Jun 17, 2011
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  6. Armstrong!

    Armstrong! Active Member Full Member

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    Valuev too big for Ali? Wasn't Valuev beaten by 6'2 David Haye? :huh

    There's no point in even discussing with this guy. :good
     
    Armstrong!, Jun 17, 2011
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  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
    Very....erm......entertaining list.
     
    Stevie G, Jun 17, 2011
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  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns , Arguello , Ali top 30 ?
    Talking bout trolls .
    How cum u have Armstrong so low and Langford lower than Fitzsimmons ?
    In a board when the majority believes Louis could KO a prime Tua , no wonder you have him at #1 .
    And what did Jack Johnson do to be so high ? draw the color line against his own race ?
    Liston ? were Patterson , Folley and Cleveland Williams that fearsome as HWs ?

    What do you base your HWs sort on ? ovulation ?
     
    frankenfrank, Jun 19, 2011
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  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frank, what does it matter who you THINK could ko who? Greatness is measured by what you've actually done and who you actually beat. That has always been the problem with your lists, you rank on assumption!
     
    JAB5239, Jun 19, 2011
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  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not just assumption !
    I also consider the reasons to the facts that actually happened .
    Like Ali's paper KO over Foreman , Tunney's paper UD over Dempsey (a KO for Dempsey if you judge upon what actually happened and don't assume that Tunney might have gotten up quickly and had his had clear) ,
    Holmes' paper TKO over Shavers , Ali's paper UDs over Jones and Chuvalo *2 , some may also add Norton and Young , Lewis' paper TKO over McCall , Wladimir's paper TKO over Brewster , Vitali's paper TKO over Puritty and Lewis' paper TKO over Vitali , Tarver's paper TKO over Harding , Jones' paper KO1 over Griffin , Jones paper UD over Toney , etc and these and Louis' refusals to settle the score for real
     
    frankenfrank, Jun 19, 2011
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  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everything here is a criticism and loosely based ASSUMPTION on what MAY have happened. They have no bearing on the truth. :-(
     
    JAB5239, Jun 19, 2011
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  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then you don't know the facts behind those . I always knew you have more to learn than I do.
     
    frankenfrank, Jun 19, 2011
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  13. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCall really lost less than what boxrec says .
    Stoppage wins over Lewis & Akiwande are quite telling for a man McCall's size.
    Same for the justified decision win over a 7 years younger and much bigger Lance Whitaker.
    And actually he has more wins over bigger opponents .
    And a decision win over a very underrated Jesse Fergusson.
    And a stoppage over a still young and brave Oleg Maskaev.
    Even Darroll Wilson was younger than him when McCall KOd him , and then there was Yamplier Azcuy too .
    Fergusson outpointed Mercer , Douglas and Obed Sullivan , at least these guys were more dangerous than most of those whom Greb fought.
    Who did Harry Greb stop ? do you even know if he was or wasn't a dirty fighter ?
    Greb was also stopped twice by bigger men , do you know why McCall was stopped ?
    Do you know how McCall record would have looked if he had all his sparing sessions listed like Greb has ?
    Greb could barely stop bums , McCall stopped world champions and in his prime he was one of the worst nightmares either Klitschko could get
     
    frankenfrank, Jun 19, 2011
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  14. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe he still is? where would you rate McCall in todays scene. Strangely enough, i think we could do worse than a Wlad mcCall match today, even though Wlad obviously starts favourite. I wonder what a Wlad win would do to mcCalls legacy.
     
    Boilermaker, Jun 19, 2011
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Your rating of akinwade is even more bizarre.
     
    lufcrazy, Jun 19, 2011
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