The Ingle style doesn't cut it at world level!

Despite Naz's lo0ss to Barrera, I dont think its fair he "couldnt cut the mustard" at world level.

 

Welcome to 20 years ago.

 

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I have waxed lyrical about how much I despise this style on here

I think it falls short because it doesn't teach fundamentals in terms of footwork, staright punching, jab, etc

 

Naz was the dog's to be fair. But with his natural talent he still would have been just as good with a more orthodox style. Not necessarily Klitchko -esque but a happy medium

 

I'm not a fan of it, I think it's effective to a point but when you meet higher skilled,fundamentally better boxers it starts to get exposed.

According to Herol Graham he introduced it to the Winklebank Gym and that Ingle took on the style. Here's the interview withSpencer Fearon..

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_V0XBf9gB8[/ame]

There's so many problems with this style with regards to such things as:

Longevity- Fighters once they recline in speed/reflexes then become ineffective because lack of fundamentals. Ie. Witter. Once you lose that sharpness they have no basic boxing skills to fall back on like Jab, Conventional block and parry defence etc.

Natural Abilities- Not all fighters have got the natural reflexes and sharpness to carry this style off. You need to be razor sharp mentally/physically. Ask someone like Tom Dallas to fight like this ...

Ring IQ- I noticed many Ingle fighters struggle to adapt when fight's not going there way because they are normally in control so once someone takes control and negates there strengths it's hard for them to adapt and change effectively.

I believe it's a style that works a lot mentally on beating opponent or make the opponent weary to throw and feel inferior. Like Chris Eubank used to do things in ring to feel ring general and impress judges which is smart this style reminds me of that with regards to how fighters feel inferior or cautious and stand off at range. The Ingle fighters ooze confidence which is a great thing but once they meet there match they don't have plan b.

I always say get them in with a fundamentally sound boxer with good footwork and they are in trouble.

 

Ingle said it was taught to him by an Irish friend. I don't have a video to back this up. But obviously it had to be invented by a black man as Spencer Fearon says lol

 

The style in itself relies on reflexes and flexibility. I think whoever said it did not teach footwork was wrong, Graham relied heavily on his footwork and his limbo style upper body movement. If a fighter of this style could incorporate a good jab i think it would have improved it, but maybe the unorthodoxity of the style is what made it so difficult. People became fixated with the style, you often heard commentators say 'who do you spar to prepare for Graham' , the men who beat him Kalambay and McCallum were both consumate boxers with good jabs and classic skills. He fought them both very close. Naz took it the furthest, but he was a great athlete with concussive power. Would he have been as good with more traditional skills ? Not a chance, he was short and elusive, his style was perfect for him.

 

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If your only loss is to Barrera your doing pretty well imo

 

Spot on. He was special and, if he had kept his dedication a little better, Naz could have been even better. He was a wonderful talent.

 

"He couldn't cut it at elite level", I think is a fairer comment.

 

That is fairer, but I beleive he was elite for a time.

 

One phrase sums up the Ingle way of doing things and that's 'smoke 'n' mirrors'. What the ingles don't understand is you can't train every kid the same way and in the same style. To succeed with that style you need an insane amount of reflexes or a mule punch to bail yourself out of difficult situations. For every success you're gonna have about 10 failing. And when you fail with that style it looks even more horrific because of the lack of fundamentals.

 

Cus D'Amota had trained kids using Tysons bob and weave for years before he met Mike. Then he struck gold with Mike where it finally worked on someone.

Same with Ingle he had everyone fighting that style and then it finally started getting him places with Naz and others then followed.

Like anything once you find an edge its gone as quick as it arrives.