Bob Fitzsimmons vs Evander Holyfield

Prime fitz was a middleweight and prime holy was a cruiser.

So straight away fitz is giving up 40 pounds to a great fighter.

I think fitz might have some success early on, maybe even hurt holy but down the stretch I have to pick holy to wear him down and stop him.

As great as fitz was he isn't great enough that he can give up 50 pounds and still defeat a fellow great.

 

Anyone who tries to pull off the below move is getting seriously exposed against Holyfield

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This stance/guard would get seriously exploited

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But isnt that the exact same method of avoiding a punch as Muhammed Ali used regularly?

do you think Ali would get exposed against Holyfield?

 

yes PP explain how fitzsimmons' guard would be exploited more in depth, guaranteed funny


as for the topic of course fitzsimmons loses, he was white and lacks the defined pecs and hormone recessed testicles of holyfield.

 

That pretty much describes not only ali, but also Vitali (arguably one of todays most successful fighters, doesnt it);

This is just wrong, unless we are trying to use the 45 year old fitz.

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6-7 punch combination by holyfield would seriousely expose his flaws.
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If he lands that combination, which is unlikely.

Again this is wrong. If you are comparing average jabs of the era, the older fighters squared up more and threw the jab less often, but with more weight behind it, as opposed to the 'flicking' jab which is thrown more often today.

 

i honestly don't give a prime fitz much chance here. he'd be seriously outweighed by a man who is an all time great as well as a top 10 great cruiser and heavyweight.

early doors maybe fitz does well but over 15 rounds with holyfield breaking him down, noway man. prime fitz is probably about 155 or so he just wouldn't keep holyfield off him unless he landed a one punch knockout.

 

http://http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Evander+Holyfield+v+Francois+Botha+SV3rmdPQZacl.jpg

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Evander+Holyfield+v+Francois+Botha+SV3rmdPQZacl.jpg

here is a pic of Holyfield in action. Note particularly how the picture above, kindly posted by Power puncher shows how much more succesful fitzsimmons evasive action would have been than Ibragimovs was against Holyfield. Note also how open holyfield is for the solar plexus shot to finish things. It seems These photos prove fitz would have no trouble landing the Fitzsimmons shift solar plexus shot and finishing this one early.

 

Ali is an exception with his super human hand speed/reflexes BUT he still uses lateral movement and angles to get out of trouble.

However Holyfield may well exploit Ali's habit of leaning back from punches, that's why Cooper, Frazier and Norton all had different degrees of success

Fitz doesn't have the sophistication or speed/reactions of an Ali.

The fact you think a lack of guard isn't an issue shows you know nothing about boxing

Fitz has worse fundamentals than Carl Froch and we see how easy to hit he is, even against domestic level opponents. Fitz against any world level technical boxer of his own weight would be worse than Barrera-Hamed

 

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39087000/jpg/_39087562_hollyfield300.jpg

And here is an action shot of what you can expect Holyfield to look like at some stage during the fight.

 

Even in the rumble in the Jungle against George Foreman?

 

Fitz of 1895 to 1987 gets smoked like a Cuban cigar by 1988 Holy....bbb

HOLY!:yep

MR.BILL:hat

 

That Ali used a highguard Foreman had a low guard, but no doubt he had near the handspeed