Hypocrisy & Duplicity Of British Fight Fans : A Thoughtful Analysis

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Tanchico, Jun 20, 2011.


  1. tomj

    tomj Guest

    I don't think Kotelnik was weak, just tailor made for Khan. Most people dislike Khan because he is a money grabbing bell end, not because he's Muslim or ****stani., not everyone's racist. Last I heard Macklin was Papua New Guinean, I hope he flies the flag proud!
     
  2. FrochFan7

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  3. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The comparison with Froch is laughable - Froch was loyal to Mick for a long time and unfortunately Mick had no TV for Britain's best world champion, so what is he to do.

    You are on even shakier ground with your comparison with Hatton. The major thing that Khan and his team could learn from Hatton is the importance of the 'like-ability factor'. Hatton was well liked by the casual fan for his down to earth and unassuming personality. Khan has suffered very bad publicity in the past couple of years, mostly down to his team and hangers on, but he also has came across very poor. The stuff he is coming out with on twitter and his disrespect to other fighters are obvious examples of his out of control ego. He will never be liked or supported half as much as Ricky Hatton.
     
  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought this twat was banned?

    He's one of the many aliases pretending to be a Khan fan whilst playing the race card. What a ****-hole the Brit forum is becoming now.
     
  5. ScubaSteve

    ScubaSteve Dwylo o Garreg Full Member

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    Am I right in thinking the OP is Maxwell? :think
     
  6. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Fine, you don't like Khan but don't write ****. The Barrera fight, yep anything is possible on a FW card, pin the blame on fish-eyes for that one. As for Kotelnik, he's beaten Maidana, robbed against Alexander, dropped a decision to Khan. There's argument for having him in the top 5 at 140lbs but hey, don't let your bias blind you :deal
     
  7. ScubaSteve

    ScubaSteve Dwylo o Garreg Full Member

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    Kotelnik is a good world level operator and very underrated by some. He had the beating of Alexander. The word is thrown around too much but that was a robbery.
     
  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have no idea, mate. There are too many of them.
     
  9. modestbiggles

    modestbiggles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like a touch of adding "A Thoughtful Analysis" to the thread title.

    It really makes it even more clear that Tanchico or whatever he's called is a grade a twat and a troll of the highest order.
     
  10. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Disrespect to other fighters??? What by expressing his ambition of fighting the best instead of knocking over tomato cans on FW cards....... Could you please provide some actual quotes of Khan trash-talking an opponent before a fight, if not don't post rubbish :good Trash-talking is what Haye has been doing e.g. the dickhead comment in the HBO face-off.

    You're right in one respect, Team Khan have been kryptonite for Khan's PR but you say that Khan could never reach the levels of popularity of Hatton... no ****, Sherlock. A lot of Hatton's popularity stemmed from his cross-over appeal to the 'jack-the-lad I'm off down the pub to neck 20 pints' football fans. Nothing to do with racism, but Khan is not english, is muslim and comes from a culture with a completely different set of values. Never in a million years could he dream of capturing that demographic. But Jesus, his PR image & appeal could be so much better and for that you can lay the blame of at the feet at Team Khan :thumbsup
     
  11. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Read his twitter, he was calling Lee McAllister a bum a couple of days ago, simply for expressing his opinion on the fight. After the McCloskey fight, he tried to rub salt further into the wound (especially after the farcial gimme stoppage) by claiming McCloskey had quit. Absolutely no class.

    I said he will never be half as popular as Hatton - try to read. This is despite the huge visibility that he began with as a result of his Olympic success. One of the most popular boxers of all time was Muslim. Prince Hamed is muslim and he had brilliant support. There are is no watering down the fundamental problem with Khan and Team Khan - they are a bunch of blatant money grabbing amateurs that lack class. If they cared about the bigger picture or about building up a bigger fan base then they would moved the Khan-McCloskey fight to Sky Sports 3 as requested by Sky. But, no they come out with crap like they are going to Primetime for the sake of the fans.:patsch

    They are on Primetime because even Sky had enough of their prima donna notions as PPV kingpins who can do as they please.
     
  12. Tanchico

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    First of all I think people are overly sensitive about this whole "race card" issue, I simply said that for reasons unknown that Khan gets more criticism than other boxers for changing trainers or promotors. Macklin is a Mexican warrior and therefore is perhaps outside of the scope of his thread given hjs multicultural and multi lingual and multi national background.

    I think you are deliberately ignore certain facts: Fact 1 Khan followed Lee McAllister on twitter first and said some nice things about him "your welcome for the follow and good luck with your career", It was when McAllister started being an ass that Khan unfollowed him, I think its the pot calling the kettle black when McAllister a guy who has fought nothing but Journeymen and Afribums who have 5 wins and 5 losses to claim Khan took the easy way to the world title. Khan can not take the "hard way" like McAllister and import people from Africa and dance around for 12 rounds and get a hometown decision like McAllister.

    McAllister also been saying he wants to fight Khan at Pittodrie stadium, Is he having a laugh? :rofl

    I agree that Khan can not be as popular DOMESTICALLY as Hatton because Khan does not represent the white working classes like Hatton, Khan and what he represents is a complete anathema to what Hatton represented. Khan's British fans are much more sophisticated, wealthier and educated than Hatton fans, They are mostly white collared upper middle class ultra-liberals and Asians who have liberal views and think Khan represents the future. Hatton fans were mostly drawn from the working class, minimum wage, low educational achievement, high birth rate, football hooligans and "foreigners are taking our jobs" group. Khan wont be as popular as Hatton domestically nor should he try, But he will be more popular internationally than Hatton, Hatton never had fans in the middle east, Pakstan or had his fights shown in the Philipines.

    They can fight on whatever channel they want, if you dont want to watch then change the channel.
     
  13. PUNCHDRUNK

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    Post & kettles mate..... Did you hear McCloskey's reaction immediately after the fight saying he was robbed, the post fight presser where he said Amir is not an elite fighter after dropping all of the rounds to him and then demanding a re-match. What's Khan supposed to to do, take it with good grace but as always there are two sides to every story :deal The Lee McAllister thing, don't know what he said? Was it objective or did he label Khan a second rate flawed chinny fighter who's going to be exposed again very soon.......

    As for Naz's popularity & being a Muslim, well that was pre-2001 and we all know what has happened since then. You're right in as far as Team Khan are bunch f*cking penny pinching amateurs though. The pity of all this is Amir under the right PR management Khan could have been a healing unifying force for good, instead he just comes across as ill-advised, simplistic individual as evidenced by his stupid 'tweetering' which people on ESB are so quick to reference.
     
  14. Evil Rick

    Evil Rick Active Member Full Member

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    I like that the OPs idea of "wishful thinking" is to criticize more British fighters instead of stopping the criticism of Khan. I'm a Khan fan but whilst some people might just hate Khan whatever he does, it's more the way he sometimes comes across in his interviews and the way his team acts, much the same reason DeGale and to a lesser extent Haye get a lot of flak. A small section of narrow minded idiots will hate him for being Muslim but there isn't a damn thing you can do about that but there isn't to much of that in this forum.

    A **** thread, started for no reason other than to get on a soap box.
     
  15. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Tanchico's work here is done. Onto the next thread (s) later on today...