*Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye Build-up Thread*

He was drained for most part of his career if you followed it BamBam he was always straining to get down. The Mock punch was to temple and was good punch people forget that. Most know he was drained against Mormeck he muted it before the fight...he even went up to Heavy before to get career started there before going back down to take care of business.

Barrett caught him in transition simple as, was he hurt? cos your first post was trying to insinuate that...now your mentioning speed of a man...

 

Video not working for me mate.

 

No he wasnt hurt but still put down by a light punching slow old Heavyweight.
Haye himself said he he cant take Wlads power on the chin.He knows if he makes one mistake he will be asleep:yep

 

I agree. Wlad is a different kettle of fish here, a huge step up for Haye considering his recent opponents in Ruiz, Harrison.

 

:heyWhat was it? I can look on youtube for it

 

That Barrett thing is a storm in a teacup. Nothing happened.

 

Monte Barrett was hardly light punching...

Tbh i never said he can take Wlad's power but i don't think Wlad can take his.

 

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Thank You T. The guys square on and off balance and people give impression he was on ***** street. I tried find this Ruiz punch that staggers Haye...like to see that as well cos i never saw that.

 

Is it possible to say that P4P, Haye is better than Klitschko even if Klitschko can be said to be better than Haye in real terms as a heavyweight?

 

I suppose Haye would have to be able to make cruiser for that to be debatable. Which he quite possibly can't anymore.

 

Hmmm Tbh Nah personally Wlad's resume at Heavyweight far surpasses Haye's at Cruiser and Heavy. If David beat Adamek and Cunningham then we would have more of a debate but he didn't stick around for obvious reasons.

Haye's got some quality wins over the space of his career but Wlad has consistently beaten ex champions/contenders over years. David still has some way to go if you look at P4P based on resume and recent wins.

 

But that's one problem with the P4P rankings IMO, is that it's a bit flawed for heavyweights and is about division, not actual weight. A 250lb Haye (not a fat one, but a taller and bigger one) would be better than Klitschko (I think, at least) but the P4P rankings don't take the 30-40 lbs difference in weight between them into account. I'm not saying that they should though. Although of course, Haye hasn't done enough anyway to be ranked above Klitschko.

 

You're taking P4P far too literally.

If fighters are the same weight division, then you consider they are the same size.

A 201lb fighter is judged equally against a 300lb fighter.

 

Yeah, I thought so. :think