Last time Money Mayweather fought an opponent NOT coming off a sensational victory?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MichiganWarrior, Jun 21, 2011.


Page 6 of 24
  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

    26,793
    7
    Mar 20, 2010
    Same grade class. Unless you think Cotto's an A. :lol:
    Because they dont have the skills Mayweather has. Mayweather didnt move up to welterweight because he was big fool. :lol:

    And get destroyed by Mosley and Oscar. Floyds 2 best victories.
    Over the hill Oscar and Mosley Floyd fought destroy Cotto and Margarito.



    Thats not what I said. You said Floyd was "ducking threats". How is he ducking threats when Oscar is a far bigger threat then Cotto. Oh and its not just my opinion. There was a thread and most felt Oscar would KO Cotto as would anyone who understands boxing. No way little Cotto would be able to cope with Oscars size and strength. That left hook would have landed all night. Cotto could barely handle a shot Mayorga.

    Oh and you also keep ignoring the Top Rank issue. Sorry its clear you're biased.

    If you werent biased you should have named legit opposition who werent with Arum like WInky wRight or Vernon Forrest. Far better fighters then Margarito or Cotto.
     
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    #76
  2. maryann

    maryann Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,061
    0
    Oct 19, 2008
    hahahha:patsch:bbb
     
    maryann, Jun 22, 2011
    maryann, Jun 22, 2011
    #77
  3. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

    26,793
    7
    Mar 20, 2010
    Its different for Pac because he declined the original tests and the compromise.

    The other fighters had no problems with the original demands.
     
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    #78
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

    26,793
    7
    Mar 20, 2010
    Victor Ortiz is coming off a better victory then Manny's last 4 opponents.

    Prove me wrong. :deal:bbb
     
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    #79
  5. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

    16,472
    1
    Aug 5, 2009
    So Pac became the most accomplished fighter by cherrypicking? That makes his accomplishments even more astounding, considering if he didn't cherrypick, he'd even be more accomplished than he already is being the most accomplished.
     
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    #80
  6. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,635
    7
    Sep 15, 2004
    and floyd is a legitimate 5'8'', and Pac is probably just a tiny shade under a legit 5'6'', size comparisons should be accurate. Floyd is a bigger man but it won't matter for this fight.

    When I met Floyd I looked him dead in the eye, we were exactly the same height.
     
    aramini, Jun 22, 2011
    aramini, Jun 22, 2011
    #81
  7. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,914
    0
    Nov 14, 2010
    Against who?
     
    CoDer, Jun 22, 2011
    CoDer, Jun 22, 2011
    #82
  8. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

    16,472
    1
    Aug 5, 2009
    :huh

    Are the original demands for the other fighters the same as the original demands for Pac?
     
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    #83
  9. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

    16,472
    1
    Aug 5, 2009
    Ortiz beat Berto. Who has Berto beaten?

    Pac last 4 opponents:

    Mosley- beat Margarito, DLH, Mayorga
    Margarito- beat Cotto, Martinez
    Clottey- beat Judah
    Cotto- beat Mosley, Judah, Clottey
     
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    #84
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

    26,793
    7
    Mar 20, 2010
    No. But the compromise is. And thats all that matters. I believe Floyd wanted up to the fight, then changed to 14 days am I right? Then 21 or whatever. But Pac wouldnt go below 24 right?
     
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    #85
  11. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,438
    24
    Mar 13, 2010
    :patsch

    :patsch

    Ok so since one guy beats another guy, theres' no reason to for Floyd to fight him. Didn't Floyd use that lame excuse when talking to Brian Kenny?

    .

    :lol: Cotto BEAT a younger, better version of Mosley. What the f* are u smoking dude?

    The Oscar win was decent, nothing to brag about. He was way past his prime at that stage. And what were the odds in that fight btw? If your going to call Oscar a threat.

    Mosley , on paper, was the first legit , real threat that Floyd had faced in a long, long time. But as it turns out, the fight came way too late and Mosely wasnt the same guy anymore.


    He's ducking threats because he cherry picked or took 'retirements' instead of fighting the best possible guys out there. It's pretty simple.

    The top rank issue is just an excuse. If Floyd wanted to fight Cotto, Pac, and Margo , those fights could have happened. Winky Wright and Forrest were fighting at 154/160 by the time Floyd moved to welter.



    for the record , i dont think Floyds resume is ****.. he's got a good resume, but for someone of his talent and ability it's incredibly lacking , and at welterweight , it's pure crap. It wouldn't be an issue if he fought and stayed at 140 or something, but that isn't the case.
     
    Gander Tasco, Jun 22, 2011
    Gander Tasco, Jun 22, 2011
    #86
  12. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

    26,793
    7
    Mar 20, 2010
    Berto is a better victory then the opponents Manny fought were coming off of. Mosley had a draw against Mora. Margarito a ugly win against a journeymen. Cotto a gift against Clottey. Clottey a loss to Cotto.


    Ortiz beat up and shut down Berto in the 2nd half of the fight. Better victory then any opponent Pacs opponents were coming off of.
     
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    MichiganWarrior, Jun 22, 2011
    #87
  13. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,150
    1
    Oct 26, 2008
    Wow!

    That is quite a spin...

    What Mayweather did was not want to fight the champ... then when some poor random guy got lucky catching the champ on a bad day.. Floyd pounces in and gets a cheap title. Like in the case of Baldomir.

    THAT version is much closer to the truth that you spin.
     
    JoeAverage, Jun 22, 2011
    JoeAverage, Jun 22, 2011
    #88
  14. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

    16,472
    1
    Aug 5, 2009
    Then that is my original point. Why were Floyd's initial demands different for Pac than those other fighters?
     
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    #89
  15. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

    16,472
    1
    Aug 5, 2009
    And exactly who is Berto again? Who did he beat to deserve such high acclaim as a proven quality fighter?
     
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    caneman, Jun 22, 2011
    #90
Page 6 of 24