Last time Money Mayweather fought an opponent NOT coming off a sensational victory?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MichiganWarrior, Jun 21, 2011.


  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I'm going to copy and paste this from yesterday

    Why do you guys keep saying that Floyd never asked any of his previous opponents for drug testing. Why does that matter? Maybe he just came up with the idea recently. What if he decided to have his opponents do it in his 9th fight?
    Would you guys say he never asked his previous 8 opponents to do it and oppose it?

    That doesn't make sense to me. What does matter is that he's making all of his future opponents take the test. If Mosley and Ortiz didn't take it then that'd be a problem, but who cares that his previous opponents didn't.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't get why people pick holes in floyd's resume.

    Yes he shot to prominence at 130-135 and then followed it up fighting ndou, sosa and brussels. Aside from that inexplicable trio and the farce against mitchel all of floyd's opponents have been decent-great and there's no escaping that.

    The issue isn't with who he has fought, the issue is with who he hasn't in light of his inactivity.

    Still, maybe i'm being harsh, the guy has come from a crack house to being rich beyond my wildest dreams, he's a shoe in for hof and will make most people's top 50 all time list, all this with only suffering a couple of bust knows.

    I get annoyed that he hasn't fulfilled his potential but I don't see how anyone can be annoyed at the guys he has fought, as michigan says, all are coming of pretty good victories going back to judah. I've stated the only 4 i'm unable to excuse.

    The worst thing about them 4 is they can be replaced with freitas, casa, tzyu and margo. Then obviously his retirement can be replaced with cotto, williams and clottey and that's the difference between top 50 and top 10.

    Still his resume speaks for itself it's the gaps that annoy me, not the victims.
     
  3. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He never demanded a test from JMM. Once again, you're wrong.
     
  4. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still doesn't make Judah the 7th greatest. That means Shamba Mitchell would have to be ahead of him. :lol:
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

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    Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, and Mosley were all former welterweight champions.

    and everyone listed was a former or current champion at the time they fought floyd.
     
  6. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't bother. Everyone in here arguing didn't watch boxing in 2006/7 and therefore are only able to discuss people connected to Pacquiao.

    Therefore, Cotto is a beast. Margo is a beast because he beat Cotto. Clottey is a beast because he almost beat Cotto and did beat Judah (better than Floyd did!!!).

    Therefore, Mayweather's resume is **** because he didn't beat Cotto, Margo and Clottey.

    And, please don't consider that Floyd beat the lineal champ in Baldo for the same money that was offered by Arum for Margo. Floyd ducked Margo and remains scared shitless of him to this day. Don't argue.

    And please, don't bring up how Pac does the same thing all of the time. Even last fight, Berto put forth the best offer and Pac decided to fight Shane instead (like Floyd did against Baldo).
     
  7. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The same exact thing can be said for Pac's resume but that's not the point he was trying to make. He said Judah was the 7th best welterweight Floyd has fought. That means there are 6 welters on Floyd's resume that was better. The point is no way Judah is the 7th best welterweight Mayweather has fought. Try and defend that.
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    See, the thing is, it's not UP to Floyd to come up with these kind of ideas. That's the job of the boxing commission.

    And since he only hit upon this brainwave when he was faced with the prospect of fighting Manny, we can be reasonably sure it has something to do with fear of Pac.

    Are you saying Floyd was dumb for his first thirty-something fights, and now he's suddenly enlightened.

    Put another way, do you think Floyd hit upon this idea because

    a) he felt it his moral duty to clean up the sport.

    b) he had concerns about facing Pac.


    Now even you know the answer to this one.


    Of all the Floyd apologists on here, your 'logic' takes the cake !:yep
     
  9. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty interesting:good I dont cant argue with Floyds resume, but only at 147 Floyd had some names he could have face. Styles make fights and you never. He got my respect with the Zab fight and then the Shane fight. And im very proud of him stepping up and facing someone young like Ortiz. So I guess that makes up for some of what I use to be very vocal off.
     
  10. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    "Sensational victory". By that meaning either:

    a) the manner of victory was unimpressive. Or

    b) The fact said fighter won at all was sensational (i.e - unexpected).

    This means that people did not expect the fighters in question to have the pedigree to win the way they did, meaning that they hadn't done anything to show people that they could win in that fashion.

    Which leaves the question of their actual ability (i.e - was the "sensational" win a fluke?), which finally means that with the pathetic premise of this thread you have shot yourself in the foot, because you, yourself, are calling into question how good the opponents are, and you haven't even realised it.

    Oh dear....
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    it's only the difference between top50 and top10 if he performs well in those fights.
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    :lol: Being a surprise doesnt denote "fluke" what a dumbass thing to say. :lol:
     
  13. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd is afraid of all Bob Arum fighters.:rofl:rofl
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    If Pac would have accepted testing and created another obstacle to the fight then you'd have a point. But Floyd accepted all of Pacs demands, including a 10 mil weight penaltiy, as stated by Greenburg "Floyd has accepted all demands".


    So logically Pac looks like he's afraid of Floyd.
     
  15. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Don't mind him, he's a *******