The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-...ine-test_N.htm
He is willing to subject himself to full urinalysis every day up to the fight, on fight night and during the fight. haha the blood tests was where these guys came into a problem. I just didn't see the problem with that because the tests would have detected whtever they could either way..

You know EPO I think is easier detected, I think they are really ahving a bigger problem with HGH and I'm really not sure that they can truly detect it either way..

 

Dude, read the article. You seem to be one the more intelligent Pac fans on this board, and I think it gives a much clearer perspective on what actually happened.

People can draw their own conclusions, but I really dont think Pac is the one ducking Floyd, or Vice Versa, it's Bob Arum that does not want this fight.

He is a proven and self confessed liar, and it is my opinion that he is using Pac and controlling him (like he does with many fighters) for his own purposes.

Pac has a history of getting involved in shady deals with shady promoters (Shaw, Murah Muhammed, the Arum/GBP dual contract debacle).

This is no reflection on Pac the fighter, but he is caught up in Arum's web of deciet.

If Pac promoted himself or got away from Arum, this fight would have been made, with some sort of testing and a equal split of the money. :deal

 

Memphis' finest!!!:yep

 

well Pacquiao "feels" he will be weakened by the OSDT :deal

 

Thanks! On the first link, there's new EPO strand/s out since then.. Mircera is a well known one. Those tests would not catch this new strand however there is a urine test out for that now.

The second link is the testing I know/was talking about, but that was far from out back then... So we still can only test it with blood, which is why Floyd requested blood testing.

"Ceres soon will start conducting human trials, Dunlap says.
"If this proves to be a reliable test, this would be tremendously helpful," says Drug Free Sport President Frank Uryasz, whose company runs the NCAA's drug testing program.
Former senator George Mitchell, who led the investigation into baseball's steroid era, told Congress in January, "Many players have shifted to human growth hormone, which is not detectable in any currently available urine test."
MLB spokesman Rich Levin said in an e-mail that MLB could move to include a urine HGH test as soon as one is scientifically validated.
Greg Bouris, spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association, said the union had no comment.
The NFL and its players union would have to collectively bargain the use of such a test.
"We are always open to reviewing any test but have yet to see a test that is available on a commercial basis," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said. NFL Players Association officials could not be reached for comment."

EPO is easier detected and HGH is harder.. But it's been detected before, by blood testing. Which is why Floyd chose to request that type of testing.

 

I thinks its funny how some people think it was dumb luck when as soon as Oscar and Floyd dropped Arum their paychecks increased greatly.

 

I missed that first time I read this... He did say he was willing to do that. I don't think he would nor do I think it would be reasonable though..

 

Arum is a damn good promoter and a good ass businessman... But once you get to a certain level you should drop the ****er, give thanks for what he's done for you and your career, and get the money you deserve. Although I don't know if Pac would have lined those previous few bouts he's made bank on. He'd probably take more risk and less money fights.

 

Arum would never let Pac near one of his fighters without options on him.

 

They are just ungrateful. They should just shut up and do whatever Arum says. That's what a REAL fighter would do. :rofl:rofl

 

Yeah you're right. Had to think about that one.. Pac might be better off with Arum taking his handpicked opponents for big paydays. :yep

 

Haha nice one... :good

But levity aside, a person determines he is physically weak through his senses, hence the verb feel. Now put that into context with your statement that Pacquiao feels he will be weakened by the OSDT, then the key word there is weakened and not feel.

On the other hand, you don't determine a person or to say the least reason out another person is a cheater because you simply feel it.

But hey, I like the pun. :good

 

It's funny how *******s are denying all these things that are on record saying 'its fighthype'. If Mayweather really didn't want the fight first time round he could have said '60-40' or even '70-30', the PPV numbers justified him asking for 60% but he agreed to 50%, that isn't the action of someone not wanting the fight

I don't think Pacquaio is ducking the fight, I think Arum probably knows Pacquaio would lose, the hypetrain and PPV money's would end and he probably threw roadblocks out there. I wouldn't be suprised if he put the 'Manny is roiding' idea into Mayweather's head to block the fight

 

the thing is why would the mayweather's including floyd and even GBP have gone through he media route publicly stating and accusing pacquiao of using PEDs when they will have to negotiate for a fight and then add the OSDT testing afterwards? you are not that sincere in negotiating when you are slinging mud behind the back.

that's why there was a media-gag order when the 2nd negotiations happen. oh wait, the joyboys don't believe the the 2nd negotiations happened because floyd was on vacation.

 

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