Adamek vs Vitali is far more interesting

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  1. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Adamek was gassing against Obese Old McBride, but it was his luck that Mr. Obesity was far more gassed than he was. At Heavyweight Haye was dropped by Barrett, but Adamek was dropped by McBride for Christ's sake! Haye was rocked by Barrett, but Adamek was rocked by washed-up Old Grant, Obese Arreola (multiple times) & that useless pikey Obese Old McBride. :lol::rofl
     
  2. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When was Adamek ever dropped as a hw? You mean when he stumbled against McBride? :-( That was officially not a knockdown. All Adamek has shown is that he has a beastly chin and a warrior's heart. Grant hits as hard as anyone in the division, threw all he had against Adamek in that one round and couldn't make him go down.Same with Arreola. If Haye got tagged by Grant or Arreola, he would have been laid out cold, which is why he avoided big punchers like the plague.
     
  3. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    Good one
     
  4. pat19

    pat19 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hahahah he was gassing because he threw 4x as much as mcbride. he isnt a damn machine. Analyze!! And clearly he was rocked when he won pretty much every round from all those guys. good work watching these fights man.
    Stop trying to compare your favorite boxer, haye, with our favorite boxer, adamek. I'd love to see that fight made but it just won't happen ever sadly!
     
  5. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gee I wonder why. Duva is already on record saying she tried to make it happen last year but her numerous phone calls and messages went unanswered. She said that was the first time ever a promoter refused to answer her calls.....Considering most boxing insiders and fans believe that Haye - Adamek is the most competitive fight that can be made at HW and a fight that can pull in serious cash too, Haye's silence speaks volumes.
     
  6. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    So he has balls to fight Wlad, but is afraid of Adamek who was world of trouble against ancient Grant? :lol:
     
  7. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doofus, he's cashing out against Wlad and win or loose, will tuck his tail between his ass and never be heard from again. Tell me something - why was Haye so woefully inactive as a HW? I mean 4 fights in over 3 years is downright pathetic and suggests he was being protected so he can get his gift title shot and cash out based on his unearned hype.


    Let's suppose both Adamek and Haye lose their next fights as most experts predict. I guarantee you, Haye will never even consider fighting Adamek and retire (he has stated as much already), despite the fight having a great deal of potential to enthrall fans and make good money. I also guarantee you that should Adamek lose, he'll still keep on fighting simply because he's got more pride and dedication to the sport. If you're lucky maybe you'll see Haye in Star Trek or some other Hollywood drivel, giving one liners and pandering to teeny boppers for a few months. Must suck to be a Haye fan.
     
  8. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He could have been more active yes. But he has faced good competition in his campaing. I mean Valuev, Ruiz and Wlad are good enough opponents to any resume.

    First of all everyone expects Adamek to lose. Haye is given far better chance to win by experts and fans.

    If Haye wants to retire after Wlad fight it is his right. It doesn’t mean he is by some weird logic scared of your hero.

    Adamek fans seem to be little but hurt that their man isn’t getting all the attention that Haye is getting. Maybe he should have been more impressive against McBrides of the world.

    Good that I’m Toney fan then.
     
  9. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh please. Haye may have all the talk and hype, but most people understand Adamek has more substance as a fighter. I mean, has there ever been a top fighter with such niche following as Haye? 99.9 % of his followers are Brits, whereas, everyone else despises him and can see past the generated hype. You're the odd ball from Finland who supports him. I guess you don't get enough sunlight up there to see the light.
     
  10. drowller

    drowller Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You must admit, all Haye opponents were picked to secure his last fight with Wlad. Haye had been a huge favourite untill now and never really thought about fighting competitive opponents in HW till the Wlad. Whereas Adameks camp was trying to arrange fights with Povietkin, Peter, Haye (big names and big threat), we could have only heard about Hayes inactivity or even <sic!> being in talks with MORMECK.
     
  11. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing experts and betting companies around the world, give Haye a much better change in victory than Adamek.

    I think its the Polska fans who arent seeing the light.

    David Haye odds for victory 2.45
    Thomasz Adamek odds for victory 4.00

    Now its lower odds that any opponent have been given, since the Peter fight, but it still isnt same league than Hayes odds.
     
  12. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hype can sway even experts, especially of the youtube variety. Haye's flaws (bad chin, terrible conditioning, spotty, inactive fighter) are far more fatal than Adamek's (lack of power) and the "experts" will change their tune after each fight has occurred.
     
  13. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you are claiming your Polska fanboy mind is more cabable making odds than betting company experts. :lol:

    Wake up and smell the coffee

    David Haye odds for victory 2.45
    Thomasz Adamek odds for victory 4.00
     
  14. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol, those might be the odds now on some site. who gives a ****. Odds change with time and are just as subject to hype, as anything. They will be different next week and then different again as the fight draws nearer. Adamek has defied odds over and over again. Tell me something - what were the odds when Haye faced Thompson?
     
  15. Antsu

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    Yeah they change but not that much. Hayes odds were 2.60 at the begining while Adamek has he 4.00.

    They prove that Haye has much better change to win according to experts.
    Experts who actually make their livelyhood by evaluating each boxers chances of victory

    Yes odds dosent mean one hasnt got any change to win. They mean how likely its to see upset happening.

    If you really believe Adamek has better change than Haye has. You should but huge bet to him, because that would mean Adameks 4.00 odds are way too high.