10 greatest defenses

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  1. dr greenthumb

    dr greenthumb New Member Full Member

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    I made a thread like this about a year ago but im interested to see if opinions have changed. sooo what fighters do you think had the 10 greayest defenses ever.
     
  2. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1 sweet pea..2 Willie pep..3 Niccolino locche..4Benny leonard..5 wilfred Benitez..6 winky wright..7.spadafora.. cant think right now..jus some names
     
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    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    James toney..langford..
     
  4. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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  5. dr greenthumb

    dr greenthumb New Member Full Member

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    ive think you misunderstood me mate i meant how well a boxer denfends himself.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    This list includes fighters I've actually seen a good deal on film, so it excludes guys like Jack Johnson, Benny Leonard, Young Griffo, and Duilio Loi.

    Nicolino Locche
    Wilfred Benitez
    Willie Pep
    Pernell Whitaker
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Winky Wright
    Miguel Canto
    Bernard Hopkins
    James Toney
    Marlon Starling
     
  7. MrSmall

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    Why did you put Spadafora?
     
  8. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because i said just some i was throwing out there..He probably doesnt crack top ten..But in myopinion he IS among the great defensive fighters..Doesnt use alot of foot movement..just upperbody..GREAT defensive fighter..whether u like him or not
     
  9. pryorgatti

    pryorgatti Active Member Full Member

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    Great list Brooklyn.

    Roberto Duran and Mike Tyson had great defense for their style but they're not remembered as defensive masters.
     
  10. teeto

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    Duran's defence in the close quarters range (in his prime) was top-notch imo
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Jimmy Young deserves a mention.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Great list. I'd put Muhammad Ali on the list as well, although it's a tough call as the others deserve their placing. I'm talking about the prime Ali up until the Folley fight.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    I think Jones was better defensively. Neither were textbook, so it call came down to effectiveness, and Roy rarely lost rounds in his prime, while Ali got downed or stunned often after flurrying and backing up with his hands down, even to much lesser fighters. Very technically flawed, as great as he was. I don't consider Ali a top defensive fighter.
     
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    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Herol Graham comes to mind...
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I never meant a great defensive fighter technically. But in his prime his movement, reflexes, and ring generalship were pretty awesome. I reckon his movement and ability to slip punches even with his hands down means he deserves a mention, but only during his prime.

    His defense wasn't as complex as Whitaker's for example, but it was just as effective at making opponents hit thin air. Ali's technical flaws were clearly shown up when he came back from exile. His lack of inside basics defensively and offensively caught up with him in the end. Frazier was the first fighter to exploit this weakness to a high degree.

    I was smart enough to put "prime" on my last post. Because if I hadn't then people would rightly assume I meant his defense was superb throughout his entire career.

    It probably means he's outside of the fighters listed. Not the best, but far from the worst defensively. His defensive career was like two sides of a coin. Post and pre exile.