Ali Hypocrite

i'll love her more when she's dead and very buried

 

The draft board came to millions of men his age though.
We all live in a world where governments have power over us, and can disrupt our lives.
Ali got off lightly really. I know people make a big deal out of his losing a few years of his career, but most men either went to 'Nam, went to jail or had to flee the country.
**** happens.

 

pillow fistedtell liston, frazier and foreman.3 monsters of the ring who were never the same after ali finished with them.
like him or loathe him, and many do, he's the greatest

 

liston would never have beaten ali under any circumstance.
fraziers head was swollen grotequely in the fight of the century and was never the same again
foremen never recovered mentally after ali beat him

of the 4 fighters mentioned ali is my 4th favourite but he is the greatest

 

Well, it must be said, Ali did grab and hold behind the head way too much.
He also rarely hit with real power, and his mugged around too much. In later years, the style became almost unwatchable.

He did have brilliantly fast hands though, and took a good shot, and fought hard when he needed to. That balanced out the obvious flaws in his style.

 

he had a lot of flaws, including rarely throwing a body punch or a left hook but his hand speed was light years faster than other big men

 

Ask Oscar Bonavena. I tremendously admire joe frazier, i really do, but his heavier left hook didnt do to Bonavena what Ali's left hook did. Just throwing this in there.Make of that what you will

 

I think there is a good balance with Ali.
Brilliant and fascinating performances.
Coupled with flat-out boring and pathetic attempts to thrill us.

Even his D-Con 'Four-Gone' Commercials were the same way.

Throw in in the mystery of the Liston fights,,,,, and you have one hell of a mix!

 

What do you mean? Search Fruit of Islam everywhere and you will hear them referred to as a paramilitary unit.

Tell me what a mafia is going to do against

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All people who were not drinking or getting high. You think the mob would test these fellows, like you guys are saying, over something so minuscule as a boxer? And yes they had guns, but they did not carry them around for public events. I never said the NOI strong armed the mafia in all of their dealings with everything. I said they strong armed them from trying to control a young Ali.

JFK got assassinated by the mafia? I hope you have inside information, because if your analysis is relying on a few documentaries and the fact that Oswald was tied to some mobster, then you should stick to what you know. All of my info at least came from the person we are talking about themselves.


Like I said I dont know much about the noi, but I do know the truth And Ali never told me these stories. I was too young to ever have or remember having a conversation with him. The information comes from my dad who was one of his closest friends since the 81 until Ali got too sick to travel about often. He would never lie to his close friend, but thats pointless to tell you guys, because it is inconvenient for your argument, and therefor you will believe it untrue.

 

You said Frazier being "an Uncle Tom compared to Ali is absolutely bull****."

So your saying that Ali being an Uncle Tom compared to Frazier is NOT bull****.


Yet Ali was treated, as you said, like god, in Africa. I think Ali is the furthest thing away from Uncle Tom a person can get.

 

REZ,,,,,,,,,

That photo is a 'parade' photo.
Those are not real guns,,,,,,,,,,,they're parade rifles.

And, why would the 'so-called Mob' want to be tied with Ali.
Their M.O. is to be low-key and keep a 'low-profile'.
Not bring attention to one-self.
I think you're grasping at straws on that one.
He didn't bring in that much money, to go around.

 

I never said they were real guns. To be honest I didnt even notice the guns.

I said they didnt carry the guns around public events.


Your lack of vision to see why a mafia would want control over a 22 year old heavyweight champion is beyond my understanding. Hes not a dog. If he doesnt want to say "IM WITH THE MAFIA", he wont.