im not talking about tyson here im talking about ali being scum. But tyson would have ko'd him. I dont care what clay did in iraq im on about a complete contradiction to his beliefs and him being a hypocrite.
JM36, Don't lump me in with the 'reluctance to fight in Vietnam crowd', I never said that. I did mention the possibility of him joining the U.S.O. Tours. Where all would have benefited. Boxing exhibitions, etc. C'mon, wouldn't you like to see Ali, getting upstaged by Ann-Margaret. Or maybe going a few rounds with 'Packy East'. Nobody really thought Ali was a chicken. I couldn't imagine letting him drive a Jeep, let alone a Sherman Tank through the jungle. Though he did drive a 'red bus' pretty good.
I know you dont care what good hes done, your only interested in character assassination with your blinkered outlook. Go and have a joint or a wank and relax from all the hating
x2, Ali stood upto the system and won. Lets not pretend it was unheard of for the government to get rid of civil rights protestors by putting them on the front line. Ali was past the age most were recruited at to. 'No Vietkong called me no n1gger' :yep
Alex,I think you'll find that every boxer,in fact every human being has double standards that surface from time to time. For example,your man Tyson. He went through a phase of referring to Frank Bruno as a 'coconut' citing Bruno's pandering to the 'white establishment' but Tyson is the biggest example of a white bigot's stereotypical negative image of a black man. Muhammad Ali was/is a well rounded human being with virtues and faults like anyone else. I daresay that you're a fan of Tyson because of his devastating knockouts he dolled out in the peak part of his career,and his encyclopaedic knowledge of boxing history. His negative points such as his treatment of women,and dining on Holyfield earcake go along with the person.
Ali = scum but tyson (******,felon, biter of other humans ears and all round thug) = Hero :huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh
Ali just flat out believed he could have gotten out of the U.S. Army induction. His lawyers convinced him of that. But that move back-fired a bit. Though I do agree, it wouldn't have been to smart to send him to Vietnam with all the publicity, of a filmed war. Wouldn't have been too good seeing, Ali burning huts in the villages, or blowing up a Viet-Cong bunker with a Grenade-Launcher.
It's interesting that the government dropped the minimum pass mark,so they could attempt to draft Ali again,is n't it ? He took a stand,giving up his best years in the ring.
**** all bigoted jealous haters of Muhammad Ali. And before you come back with me with "Well Clay was a racist" he wasn't. Can't believe to this very day there's a bunch of butthurt assholes about Ali. Very sad. Vietnam was a tragedy, a mistake, anyone with a brain in their heads knew it, thank goodness for Ali protesting that quagmire.
i agree. right or wrong, whether or not i agree with him, he took a stand. he had the courage of his conviction no matter what we think of it and it cost him. i give him a lot of credit for his stance and the war, in retrospect, was a joke filled with atrocities and human rights violations. did ali know that? maybe, maybe not but i don't condemn him for not participating