Ali vs. Wladimir Klitschko's Opponents

You can't outbox Ali really..so guys like Chambers, Haye, Byrd, Chageav, and Sultan would get clowned and embarressed trying to box and counter somebody so fast, light on their feet, and busy offensively. Ha, they would actualy lose like they did against Wlad but with more trash talking lol

Brewster would lose but present an entertaining Chuvalo like challenge to Ali.

Samuel Peter..Ha..WHO NEX?

I thinK Thompson would be weird, a slow but busy 6'5" southpaw swarming body puncher. Only man to outland Wlad I can think of. He would lose to Ali but he would get some licks in, maybe pull a poor man's Norton with his awkwardness and body attack..but soo slow.

Before Wlad ruined him, Brock had the goods, good body attack and a killer left hook, but I think Ali would get in his head. If not, he has the best chance of playing Doug Jones.

Sanders gives him trouble until he gasses and gets stopped on his feet.

Ultimately, Ali matches up very well against these guys. Later Ali I don't know, matches could get uglier but I would still favor him.

You know who would be interesting against Ali? Sergei, possibly the best body puncher in the modern division. He's got a dumb ass corner though and he wouldn't stand a chance, but he would actually give Ali some grief I think.

 

Ali ****ing CLOWNS everyone of those fools.

He doesnt get knocked out by Brewster and co either

Haye Vs Ali would be entertaining....only due to the trash talking

 

Ibragimov , Byrd & Chambers would have been 2 debatable decisions that would go Ali's way (as Don King is still around) , 2 draws really , but many ppl will always find d reasoning 2 give Ali d decision . Bokaj has some connection 2 Dundee so it's understood .
Brewster & Haye would have actually beat Ali , but d refs would have thought otherwise .
Sanders would have overwhelmed Ali @ d beginning , but if we don't refer 2 prime Ali (whom possibly gets stopped by Sanders) and If Ali allowed his usual foul play , then he tires an unmotivated Sanders (or maybe even d relatively motivated young Sanders) and barely steals a sufficient amount of rds 2 take a decision , Ali gets decked in either scenario .
McCline - same with Sanders with a lesser possibility of stopping Ali , loses a close decision (draw in reality) after flooring Ali once or twice in d process .
Sam Peters would have lost a competitive decision .
Tony Thompson & Ray Austin would have surely given him big trouble , and none gets stopped .
Ross Puritty possibly gets outslapped if he comes in in d wrong mood , but gives Ali a Jones/Cooper/Chuvalo style beating if he comes in in d right mood .
All in all Ali "dominated" his era only 4 d eyes of d blind who saw Jones vs Ali , Cooper vs Ali (how many saw it entirely really and r here ?) , Chuvalo vs Ali , Frazier vs Ali *3 , Foreman vs Ali , Norton vs Ali *3 , Young vs Ali , Shavers vs Ali and still dare 2 claim that Ali dominated "his" era .
Ali does worse than Wlad and if he does not enjoy d criminal help of Dundee & DKP , he possibly even gets stopped just like he would have been during his time if it wasn't 4 Dundee&DKP and possibly further parties .

 

They would do about as well as his title opponents in the 60s.

 

Um, Ali had fits out boxing Patterson, Jones, Lyle, and Young. Norton owned him. Ali did not look good vs Bonevenna until very late in the fight, and lost rounds to some of his tier two title opponents. Landing on Ali was not impossible. While I would not pick any of Wlad's opponents to beat Ali in a single fight, I think if Ali fought the same list of guys he's going to lose one or two before his 35th birthday.

 

The phrase "Like a hot knife through butter" comes to mind when it comes to matching Ali up against the Klitschkos opponents.

 

Patterson was still a slugger in that first fight and injured. And he really didn't give Ali "fits"

Young and Lyle...well past Ali's prime..in the ugly "rope a dope, wait who's the dope?" years.

Norton and Bonevenna were awkward swarmers.

Jones'was Ali's baptism by fire..can we really fairly hold that against him?

See Folley, Quarry I, Moore, and Mildenberger(an excellent southpaw technician not unlike Wlad's comp) to see Ali matching up very well against boxers.

 

modern training is ****.

ali beats the old slow guys via easy decision or late stoppages. maybe eddie chambers gives him unexpected problems but ali still wins.

 

What is your grouse about the third fight with Frazier ?
The heat ?

 

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This is the key right here. For all their short comings, a lot of Wlad's opponents were south paws, ie Thompson, Ibragimov, Sanders, Chageav, etc... Sure he beats all of them, but Ali struggled with left handed fighters, even if they were of a lesser caliber... Therefore, there may be some of those guys who could make him look unimpressive... That said, I don't think he losses to any of them, and makes a fair number of them look like fools... But a few might give him some trouble.

 

Thompson, Ibragimov, Sanders, Chagaev would be tough on Ali, Chagaev is a bit slow for Ali but Sanders would present some danger,Thompson weird style and Ibragimov lots of amateur experience and quick and good power. Brock had a hook but Vlad ruined him,he fell like Zora Foley did vs Ali....The thing with Ali is he got into the minds of a lot of his opponents. Mildenburger made a go of it with Ali and I do not think he was as good as Sanders,Thompson or Ibragimov or as solid as Chagaev but could be quicker.

Nothing is easy and Ali would have his challenges but should prevail

 

wow frank, i can't even begin to point out how biased you are...