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  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No fighter with hands down and no power to keep Tyson off him is going to last long no matter who they are. Tillis didn't have the same defense guard as Ali BC he kept his hands up and would use unorthodox stances to confuse guys BC he was a converted southpaw.....these are facts ppl wish to ignore or don't even know about

    Tillis wasn't even close to winning that fight but somehow its proof Tyson couldn't beat Ali? Such is boxing logic usually.
     
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    A prime Holmes or the older version of Lewis, there the two I give most chance .
     
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    Joe Louis and Eddie Futch might be an interesting combination!
     
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    Tyson Fury would beat him. Fury has the height and reach advantages, and they are both similar styles of fighter. Fury isn't coming forward in this fight, that is pretty much guaranteed. Ali has to come forward, he has to get close to Fury. Therefore, Fury outboxes him comfortably. Ali does have offensive capabilities, but you need to have a very, very aggressive style to trouble Fury. Ali is no Mike Tyson in terms of offensive style and output.

    Ali won't close the distance against Fury. Fury has the reach advantages, and although he can attack, he respects Ali's good power and he has the reach. He has no reason to come forward against Ali, so he will just simply keep Ali at bay with the jab the whole fight and win on points with ease.
     
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    Usyk, Moorer, Byrd or Sanders. Any good southpaw gives Ali fits.
     
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    Usyk lmao
     
  7. JackSilver

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    Ali would knock out Futch with one punch.
     
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    Lewis, Holmes Tyson.
     
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    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone keeps going on about how Tyson would beat Ali.....well Liston, Foreman and Frazier were all menacing fighters in their own right similar to Tyson.... and Ali beat them all. Ali had faster feet, faster hands, better stamina, more heart and mental fortitude than Mike which would see him to victory.

    Stylistically Lewis, Holmes, Wlad Klitschko, Tyson Fury and even Usyk would cause Ali many problems. So would Jack Johnson.
     
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    The Douglas fight is more telling to me.
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What does that exactly tell? That a guy without his ACTUAL trainer shouldn't lose a fight? Those guys were literally more like his roommates and you could figure that out when they pulled out a balloon to put over his eye when it started swelling up, they didn't even have the standard med kit at hand.

    If that's evidence that Tyson can't defeat Ali, I'll take Tyson every single time. Not only did he take actual power shots from a 6'4 230 pounder for 10 rounds but he still nearly won the fight and that's one of the worst fights I've seen him in prior to his vacation.

    It doesn't matter , I know its impossible for Ali to lose on any forum, i know this bc no one has a ever broken this match down better than me and never could.........its all good i know its a losing effort ..

    My next boxing wars not far off will be educating the Joshua factor which will be even more impossible which is good I've grown tired of the Tyson vs Ali match, BC there's literally nothing more I can learn of it........lol
     
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    You just keep patting yourself on the back!
    "It's what you're good at Butch!"
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Except only one guy is allowed in the ring at once.
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Its not about patting its knowing your limits about a topic you've literally talked about for almost 3 decades....its not my fault I'm more educated on these boards than most when it comes to the subject. I've even communicated with Steve Lott and knew more than he did...who did you ever communicate with?

    Any time you want to debate about these types of matches bring it on BC I'm going to tell you now...there's going to be a lot of patting going on....lol. :eaea:
     
  15. PhillyPhan69

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    OP says which boxer & Trainer