Allen Green suspendid

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  1. natep

    natep Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxrec has him fighting next month on the fifth in Dubai. Can anybody confirm this or is this just another unlegit Boxrec post?
     
  2. Piffer

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  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OMMM no. Im not sure where your getting that information from. We have NO federal laws for any sport. What all other sports have is ONE head....One governing body. So when a suspenion comes down in boxing its only for the state.
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once again that isnt the case...Other States arent bound by any suspenions in other state. The Ali Act was a protection act for fighters. Such as, ensure appropriate business practices, the act restricts the types of contract that a boxer may be required to sign in order to box at an event. Such as say a promoter says if you take this fight then you have to give up options on the next five fights of our career. Which before 2000 was a common act in boxing.

    Nothing to do with being suspended
     
  5. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    You are 100% wrong here.
    That is why Zab Judah could not fight for 1 year, ANYWHERE (in the USA)!

    100% correct!
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Judah could have fought. What im saying is States are not bound to uphold suspention. not to say that they dont. I know that in Judahs case many States said that they would uphold the suspenion IE New York and New Jersey. However there are states that have no governing body and Judah could have fought in one of those states or anywhere outside of the US.

    You guys are getting this thing all mixed up...One more time. If a fighters gets suspended in Nevada he can still fight in Texas unless Texas says that they will honor Nevadas decsion. Texas may or maynot allow that fighter to fight its up to them not because they are bound by what Nevada did. In most cases the States will stick together but not all the time.

    EX. In 2000 Greg Page was revoked in New York for medical reason after a ko loss. A few months later he fought in Kentucty, and again a few months after that he fought again in Kentucty.
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    here is the part of the ALI act that talks about suspensions. And Note the highlighted part.





    ``(15) SUSPENSION.--The term `suspension' includes within
    its meaning the revocation of a boxing license.''.
    (b) STATE BOXING COMMISSION PROCEDURES.--Section 7(a)(2)
    of the Professional Boxing Safety Act of 1996 (15 U.S.C. 6306(a)(2))
    is amended--
    (1) in subparagraph (C) by striking ``or'';
    (2) in subparagraph (D) by striking ``documents.'' at the
    end and inserting ``documents; or''; and
    (3) by adding at the end the following:
    ``(E) unsportsmanlike conduct or other inappropriate
    behavior inconsistent with generally accepted methods of
    competition in a professional boxing match.''.
    (c) RENEWAL PERIOD FOR IDENTIFICATION CARDS.--Section
    6(b)(2) of the Professional Boxing Safety Act of 1996 (15 U.S.C.
    6305(b)(2)) is amended by striking ``2 years.'' and inserting ``4
    years.''.
    (d) REVIEW OF SUSPENSIONS.--Section 7(a)(3) of the Professional
    Boxing Safety Act of 1996 (15 U.S.C. 6306(a)(3)) is amended by
    striking ``boxer'' and inserting ``boxer, licensee, manager, match-
    maker, promoter, or other boxing service provider''.
    (e) ALTERNATIVE SUPERVISION.--Section 4 of the Professional
    Boxing Safety Act of 1996 (15 U.S.C. 6303) is amended--
    and (1) by striking ``No person'' and inserting ``(a) No person'';
    (2) by inserting at the end thereof the following:
    ``(b) For the purpose of this Act, if no State commission is
    available to supervise a boxing match according to subsection (a),
    then-- ``(1) the match may not be held unless it is supervised
    by an association of boxing commissions to which at least
    a majority of the States belong; and
    ``(2) any reporting or other requirement relating to a super-
    vising commission allowed under this section shall be deemed
    to refer to the entity described in paragraph (1).''
    .
    (f ) HEALTH AND SAFETY DISCLOSURES.--Section 6 of the Profes-
    sional Boxing Safety Act of 1996 (15 U.S.C. 6305) is amended
    by adding at the end the following new subsection:


    That my friends mean that a State has the right to allow a fighter to fight in that State while suspended by another State as long as its a memeber of the largest group of state commission. Also note the part that said in which a majority of the states belong. That means that States without commission. A Fighter can fight in those States without getting the OK from anyone.

    Once again this all comes down to the STATE if they want a fighter to fight in thier State they are allowed to. However as I stated most will stick together and uphold the suspension. But they dont have to.
     
  8. Green sounds like a ****up:verysad dude should retire, or just think about anothe rcareer, it dosen't sound like his Heart is into boxing..
     
  9. natep

    natep Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. Brickhaus

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    New York lifted the suspension. Guys like Mesi and Morrison were able to start again because their suspensions ran out.

    In any case, others have already pointed out the law. There's reciprocity. That's why guys who suffer brain bleeds in Nevada can never fight in the US again (because anyone who gets a hemotoma in NV gets suspended for life).
     
  11. Brickhaus

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    You're wrong, and you quoted the wrong law to prove your point. Reciprocity for suspensions predates the Ali Act, and is in the Boxing Safety Act of 1996.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00006306----000-.html

    This is the relevant portion of the US Code:

    Technically, Green might be able to get around it because he never actually made it into the ring, and thus his unsportsmanlike conduct wasn't in the ring, but I doubt that will matter.

    And yes, this is what I do for a living.
     
  12. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    You say a guy needs psychological attention then you prove your knowledge of him only goes back to the Miranda fight. Well done. Good informed opinion.:good
     
  13. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Is that why he kept looking down to his foot everytime he fights?

    :rofl