Andre Wards weaknesses

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  1. Firestarter

    Firestarter Active Member Full Member

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    Only SNV have a reach advanvate over Froch :)

    I don't think that Ward will be able to hurt Froch, ward is not a big puncher and Froch is having an iron chin
     
  2. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    It's hard to say other than carl has to take put ward in a position he aint used to.. Ward is untested in the sense and froch has proved time again he has the tools for a war.
     
  3. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Agreed ward don't seem to have any pop in his punches. honest enough though
     
  4. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward has never had to face adversity in his super 6 fights.I want to see how reacts to being pressed.The thing is with Froch,you need power to discourage him and gain his respect,Dirrell had some pop to go along with his boxing ability,Ward doesn't have the power to keep Froch at bay.One thing is for sure,Froch will keep coming forward.
    I think too many people are reading into the Kessler fight,Kessler wasn't 100%,and he lost the fight psychologically.Wards speed and footwork frustrated him,and the headbutting and fouling being allowed to go unpunished,just finished him mentally.
    Besides the blind patriotism,and hate of anybody not American,few people were picking Ward to win this Tourney before he beat Kessler,since then lots have boarded the bandwagon and proclaimed him the King of the 168lber's because he beat the pre tourney favourite.
    I think the final is gonna be a much closer fight than the naysayers and nuthuggers believe.
     
  5. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    a combination of wishful thinking and something like "suspension of disbelief".

    Carl Froch is too slow to beat Andre Ward. It's that simple. He's too slow. Andre Ward is too quick, too crafty, too skilled. To call this a no-brainer is an understatement. Carl Froch has zero chance. Nil. !00% chance of a Ward UD.
     
  6. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    its going to be a close, dirty fight.

    Wards going to come out trying to establish his jab in the first few rounds but Froch is going to come through with some long combinations and will have some success until ward ties him up holding, then Ward will break out the combos and back froch up whilst froch tries to go to war and when things get rough ward will break out the headbutts.

    Its sad to see that this guy is being hugely over rated
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Ward's weaknesses:

    He's been pampered on the ass since the start of the tournament and hasn't fought out of his ass. He hasn't fought someone with the quickness and can counter with combinations like Froch. His power is very non-threatening and he doesn't have enough to keep a determined fighter like Froch off of him. Comes in too reckless with his head at times and Froch may be able to counter that with his slick uppercuts. Like Froch, his last two opponents have been only designed to fight going forwards.

    Froch's advantages going into the Ward fight:

    Can fight dirty too and is no pushover like Abraham is. Can use the jab but unlike Kessler against Ward, he can use in constantly as we saw against AA and many parts of the Johnson fight. Can fight off the backfoot, something none of Ward's S6 opponents could do. Is becoming a better boxer as is Ward but seems to always get into exchanges he doesn't need to be in. Power advantage but won't be afraid to use it like AA was. I believe he's stronger than Ward and it would be very interesting for Froch to dish out the bully strategy to see Ward get some of his on medicine(Think Bika/Ward except Froch can fight controlled for the most part and has much more than roughness going for him as his skills and defense are quite solid.


    I am hoping Froch wins to set up Bute/Froch and whoop Bute but lets see what happens. I'll give Ward props if he beats Froch but he's been getting too much unfair treatment for him, worse than refs do for Kobe & Lebron.
     
  8. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    YEAH YEAH,he was too slow to beat Dirrell,he was gonna get owned by Kessler,and Abraham was gonna knock him out in less than 4 rounds.
    If you genuinely believe Ward is gonna embarrass Froch to a one sided UD,then maybe your the one suffering with "suspension of belief "
    Bookmark this,and show it me after the super 6 final :good
     
  9. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He was too slow to beat Dirrell. Landed one punch the entire evening.

    But now he's up against Ward, a master technician with athletic ability and great boxing sense. A lumberer like Froch, with his hands down, is not going to beat Ward. He will barely land a punch and will get pot-shotted over 12 rounds.

    But I hope delusional hordes will run to the sports books and bet on Froch!
     
  10. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    "Shaken not Stirred" :good :lol:

    Mate couldnt agree more, Froch can pull off the upset unless he gets jewed by the officials
     
  11. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The one dimensional midget that is Abraham,was out jabbing Ward,and even buzzed him with a jab,and you think Froch won't land a punch on Ward :rofl
    Like i said,bookmark this thread,and show me my posts after the final.:hi:
     
  12. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    It's crazy to say Froch has no chance. AA and Bika won rounds against Ward, Froch can do the same and has the power, jab, awkwardness, toughness, combinations, and determination to give Ward fits. 50/50 fight really but I lean towards Froch because he will not be a pushover and will make this a tough fight. I can't see this being "one-sided" for either and there's nothing that shows that Ward will "shutout" Froch or come close to that, nothing. He will have to fight the perfect strategy against Froch and he can win and win big but it won't be easy. Froch will have his moments and has a good chance to win.
     
  13. conraddobler

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    "jewed"?

    Now I know exactly what to think of your opinions.
     
  14. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If Froch didn't have some sort of a superhuman chin, he would have been knocked out last night. Glen Johnson was repeatedly tattooing him with right hands to the jaw. Those were monster shots.

    Glen Johnson is a 42 year old near-journeyman with determination but clear stamina problems.
     
  15. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Agree with the above, howver what has this got to do with Ward, who fights nothing like Johnson and don't have the same power. Johnson was generating good power for a sm and froch took it. Don't get me wrong i can see ward maybe boxing out a UD but fail to see where the comparisons lie with what johnson did last night