Andy Lee...

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  1. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :think Interesting.

    Vera = Litmus Test. :good
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :yep Lee needs to fight almost the opposite of what he does. He fights too amatuerish and doesn't rely on his jab too much. When he started pumping that jab, he was doing fine. If I was his trainer,

    Step one: Double jab
    Step two: Double jab
    and finally
    Step three: Double jab

    He arm punches to and needs to get behind his jab just as he does his straight left. Steward needs to work on his body mechanics and shifting his weight around before he even starts to do any basic boxing. He has decent power already, but a tall, rangy fighter like Lee needs to bounce and fight off their toes to truly use their reach and height advantage.
     
  3. youngbuck09

    youngbuck09 Member Full Member

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    in your opinion boo what can he do 2 help correct the flaws in his game.he's a talented fighter no doubt about that,but manny doesnt seem 2 be gettin the best out of him.could brother nazim help with his inside game/footwork/upper body movement?:think
     
  4. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Call me crazy but I actually kind of like Lee and think he is a decent fighter...
     
  5. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :good Post of the day.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    YES!

    He has a good jab when he puts his mind to it. When he puts his mind elsewhere he hits that wall. I mean, his right hook is a nice weapon but he can't fall in love with it so much. Hook off the jab (or preferably off the the double jab, as you say). Keep the left hand stiff and straight, and always set it up with the jab. Maintain distance with the jab and focus on moving your head from enough of a distance to spot incoming punches with plenty of reaction time (since his head movement isn't particularly fast).

    Those all seem easy enough to say, but implementing them is another thing entirely this deep into a career laden with so many bad habits learned by rote. If he gets some more personalized attention at the Kronk and learns directly from the maestro how to fight tall, safe & smart he could still make it as a top fighter.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    More than decent potential. Less than decent execution.
     
  8. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Hell yeah he is and he can be exciting as hell too.
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Excellent read.:good
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    One of the finer points Andy would benefit from is the old Pavlik trick of getting a guy thinking about the jab, and then start flipping the jab into a left hook at the last instant. That particular technique is the reason so many of Pavlik's opponents end up with their right eye all ****ed up.
     
  11. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Andy does the small shorts thing because it makes his legs look longer and therefore makes him look even taller then he is.
     
  12. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    It's true too. Everybody always talked about Pav's straight right (which should mostly hit the left side of an opponent head) bein the killer, but it was always the right side of their face showin' all the damage.:yep

    You think Andy could use that move? Andy bein' a south paw affect the effectiveness against right handers at all?

    Interesting.
     
  13. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Yea, who gives a ****. It's nice to see a guy not want shorts down to his ankles. Wait pants?
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Yes I think Andy could make it work. If you notice how KP does it he isn't even throwing hard jabs. He's just flicking it and his glove isn't even closed, and the BANG -- hard left hook. It's the distraction and then the sudden change that makes it work.
     
  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    The post was half in jest, I apologize if I offended the intellect of some the "boxing elite" of the board. The bottom line is dude looked like **** from an asthetic standpoint, but also in terms of his overall skill level, and it was to the point it stood out to me. Secondly, had the Mcewon kid not fatigued, he would have won this fight. I expected much more from Lee, and besides being dissappointing in the ring, I felt he also looked like a ****ing clown. Sorry I missed memo about checking in with "thread police" prior to posting.