atsch All this is meaningless....seriously, do you love to read your own opinions or something? Has nothing to do with anything. WHat an *******.....sorry Diva. That's not what I was going to say. Since you know so much on my posting, you'd see that I said I favor Cotto right now. Man....what a waste of time. Logic doesn't follow suit in boxing. Not like you think it does. You post like you're in a debate or something. Winning arguments in boxing don't mean you're won ****. All you do is try to discredit the other guy rather then post your own FACTS. Which goes back to you and your "My opinion is right!!!" stance. Margarito has only failed in recent times versus guys muich bigger. And that's not to say only bigger guys will beat him. But that says what can bother him the most. Santos is a very good boxer who came in MUCH bigger then Margarito. And it was still Margarito coming on stong near the end when it was stopped due to cuts. Guess you'll just say Santos now sucks... Cotto will NOT have a physical advantage over Margarito. This is new territory for Cotto, not Margarito. Margarito will be able to take his shots. There's no real reason to expect Margarito to be KO'd in 6-7 rounds other then your GODLY opinion. And if his defense was as horrible as you say it is, and he's so unskilled and overrated, he sholda been not only beaten by most but KO'd long ago. Even if what you say it true....so what? You post so much irrelevent info in your posts (mainly obvious things no less)...no wonder people think you're some sort of expert. Nothing but your opinion Amsterdam. More of that unbiased and rational opninion... It's all about styles. One guy outhrew him, the other out weighed him. I don't see what they mean in regards to his fight with Cotto. Cotto's smaller and has the tedancy to slug it out a little. Something that might not be in his best interest. But hey, in your mind...upsets never happen huh?
Shouldn't we just wait and see what happens in this fight i can see Margo winning. Rock, paper, scissors
Amsterdam isn't including some of Tony's better wins. Andrew Lewis, Antonio Diaz, Danny Perez, and David Kamau were all very capable boxers who Margarito beat in just as impressive fashion as the "elite" had against the same names. And let's review Tony's losses. 1. Victor Lozoya - Tony's 6th fight as a pro. Tony was 16 years old. Lozoya was 19. Both were very evenly matched. And Lozoya had a good lead on him as far as age was concerned. Typically if you are building up a prospect this is the LAST kind of fight you take. Of course Lozoya, the older, equally experienced professional won the decision. 2. Larry Dixon - Tony's 10th fight as a pro. Not only was Dixon undefeated, but he was in his prime. 28 years old and had a better AM experience than Tony. This was a no-brainer. Tony was 18 years old when this fight took place. Again, if you are guiding a prospect this is NOT a fight you would take. Tony was being fed to an American prospect. Nothing more. 3. Rodney Jones - Tony's 12th fight as a pro. Not much different than Dixon here. Jones, a tall southpaw, also had 10 years on Tony and a good amount of AM experience. Another no-brainer. Just two fights into his loss to Larry Dixon he's facing yet another older, more experienced professional. Both fights took place in the same year. Not much time to reflect on the first loss to really learn anything against Jones. 4. Daniel Santos - Tony's 28th pro fight. This time was a little different. By this time Tony had grown as a man and was bringing up his pro experience by some very capable boxers. He was no longer the feed for other guys as he was now being pushed as a marketable fighter. He had looked great in beating Lewis, Kamau, Perez and Diaz previously. Santos was a difficult style mesh for Tony as they had headbutt issues. Santos was a southpaw who liked to lead with his head and Tony, being orthodox and squared up was usually right there to recieve a headbutt. Not only was it a bad style clash but Santos had 10lbs on Tony by fight time. jr.middle contest, Tony - 160lbs, Santos - 170lbs. Obviously, Santos was a BIG jr.middle. The fight was close anyways and Tony was building steam when it was stopped because of a cut caused by a HEADBUTT. Being in Santos' backyard, the decision barely went to Santos. 5. Paul Williams - Tony's 38th pro fight. Most of us saw Tony getting by Paul as we figured Paul was so easy to hit that eventually he'd crumble under the pressure. What we learned in that fight is that Paul Williams can take a helluva punch. Of course this comes back to the same sort of matchup Tony faced with Santos. A tall, lanky southpaw. Note that despite it being a bad style matchup he took the fight anyways. This of course is different than some "elites" who would avoid a bad style matchup all together. All in all I think what you have to take into consideration is what these guys brought to the table to beat Tony. Lazoya, Dixon and Jones all brought a significant amount of age into their fights. They basically beat a very young and inexperienced Tony. With Tony's style, it should be readily apparent to you all how a young brawler with limited power would fare worse than a brawler in his prime. The losses to Santos and Williams are obviously due to punch resistence and SIZE. Both Santos and Williams are big guys. Both could easily make 170lbs. And both fight out of a southpaw stance with a good reach. For a smaller, orthodox brawler these are hard fights. The way I see it Miguel Cotto brings none of these advantages to the ring. He is not the more experienced guy, he is not the stronger guy by way of age, he is not as durable as those guys and he is definately not as elusive as those guys. If you really study how these guys were able to beat Tony Margarito you'd see this.
Hmm....woulda thought that Diva would have come back to "OWN" me by now...Typical all talk Amsterdam pulling the Amster-scram shuffle... :yep
With great pleasure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3N_oC36CIY and this lesson of boxing came from a boxer who is not in the same league as Cotto.
At least Margarito has the balls to get in the ring with Cotto, sad for you Fraud-Groupies that your hero is a coward.
FYI, we're not discussing anyone's "balls" but Margarito's boxing abilities. As for "balls", there are some websites dedicated to the subject. p.s. Mayweather 120-108 the **** out of Margo any day, any place.
Just rounds 1 & 2? Against a known slow starter. :huh Yeah, you can blame Clottey's hurt hand... but Margarito won, plain and simple. :good
Clottey dominated the first four rounds; basically saw everything Margo was throwing at him. Luckily for Margo, Clottey injured his hand.
How? By potshotting a volume puncher? He'll be forces to be more active just due to Margarito's activity, whether it's more movement or throwing back. What do you think Floyd will do?
Yea because championship fights are only fought in 4 rounds. You are a clown through and through. "The thinker" :rofl Lucky for Clottey, Margarito was coming off a big layoff, a sprained ankle and an injured wrist. This bull**** excuse making goes both ways. And btw, if you really want to be an expert on Clottey's abilities, check out his fights with Gutierrez and Baldomir. He happens to get tired midway through fights. The Margarito fight was no exception. :hi: