Aoki: Overrated

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  1. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    How? Gomi signs and immediately gets a shot at top contender Florian and loses. Akiyama is 1-3, headlining a card in the UK, but each fight he's lost he gets a bigger name. Kid Yamamoto lost his 1st fight, Omigawa has lost in his 2 appearances. Gono went 1-2 and Nakamura went 0-3 against Prelim level guys

    The Asian guys just dont adapt well the UFC. How did ''****'' each and every one of these guys
     
  2. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    i was thinking of gomi. and ur right he wasnt left stagnating.
    yeah my argument is wrong i accept that... sorry.
     
  3. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    aoki is good but not an atg or even close, he would be in the top 8 lightweights in the world.
     
  4. Stoo

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    No I have him at 3
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    After breaking a mans arm and flipping him the finger, I wish nothing but defeat and brutality against him.
     
  6. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    So is your problem with the breaking or the flipping?
     
  7. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A pure grappler, even one as phenomenal as Aoki, is never going to do well in today's UFC. Not because he's too one-dimensional or whatever (although against certain fighters that would be a problem), but because the cage completely favors wrestlers. I bet you a lot of guys who'd beat him in the cage (someone like Clay Guida for instance) would get subbed in a ring.
     
  8. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    People make way more of a deal about cage/ring than there actually is to it. With Greco guys who use the cage to aid in grinding with dirty boxing and pummelling for hooks to score the takedown, yes, it can make a hefty difference. The cage doesn't make a **** to Aoki because he's not a clinch grinder and if anything it would allow him to stifle his opponent and work for a throw. The only way the cage affects him is if he gets crammed into it while on his back and can't effectively engage his hips.

    So, the real problem isn't the cage, it's that he can't wrestle for ****, couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper sack, and his Chin is ****ing abysmal.:deal
     
  9. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    :lol: Just stop

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIuPpUT4fw&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIuPpUT4fw&feature=related[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDxE5M_2pAw&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDxE5M_2pAw&feature=related[/ame]

    Where does the clinch happen?
     
  10. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    If you could read you'd see that I said he ISN'T a clinch fighter, therefore the cage would actually make him more effective when he's desperately looking for a takedown because you can more easily prevent an opponent from getting his hips out or pummeling.

    Secondly, the whole first video was a clinch that resulted from Aoki failing on an early attempt at a clinch takedown and being clueless on how to pummel on a shitty opponent who can't wrestle himself.

    The guy can't take down elite wrestlers in a cage or a ring. Get his **** out of your mouth and deal with it, fanboy.:deal:hi:
     
  11. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    I meant to point out that the clinch happened on the ropes, a key part of the fights, leading to a a TD and submission. The whole process for a TD is very different against a cage wall. Clinch = crucial to Aoki's game, now go wash your mouth out with soap
     
  12. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    The ropes aren't as conducive to a takedown as the cage is and Aoki sucks even when he's in his environment in a ring. Struggling to take down Wisniewski is a clear sign that it doesn't matter what the environment, he's not taking down guys like Melendez, Edgar, Maynard, and Penn and he's not going to survive standing against any of them. Hell, Penn tools him on the mat or standing and I would mortgage my home on it.
     
  13. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Good thing you dont own one
     
  14. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    i own aoki


    i would tap him like a canadian taps a maple tree
     
  15. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    i wana see aoki vs edgar.