Beibut Shumenov

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  1. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Do You Feel Lucky, Punk?! Full Member

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    He hasn't boxed in over a year & doesn't have a fight planned. Will the WBA & IBO strip him of his belts?
     
  2. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he needs to get his ass in the ring.
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I think he's IBA, not IBO.

    As for the WBA, they shouldn't care. They'll just make a "super" champ, "emeritus" champ, "interim" champ, and "regular" champ.

    I'd like to see Shumenov vs. Pascal. Or even Cloud.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This guy has a strange career.
     
  5. Redwood

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    Strange how Shumenov had such a fast start to his career, but after "winning" his title in that horrific robbery of a rematch vs Campillo, he's defended four times in 3 1/2 years, all against medicore (at best) opposition. The good news is that his mandatory is set, as Marcus Oliveira stopped Ryan Coyne in their April fight to win the mandatory shot. So hopefully this fraud of a champion will be forced to fight soon, and won't have his belt much longer.
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Really weird career. From what I've heard, he should've gotten the nod against Campillo in their first fight (in Kazakhstan, no less) but doesn't. Should've gotten the loss in the rematch in the U.S., but didn't. And his level of opposition to start his career was some of the most aggressive I've seen, yet his defenses have just been "meh". Now he's on an extended layoff with nothing on the horizon.

    Beibut's career literally makes no sense to me. I'm not sure if I've ever seen one like it.
     
  7. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Beibut's Kazakh isn't he? (nothing against Kazakhs BTW, GGG's my best guy) But remember the Olympic fixing thing few years back? Lotta money to make a Kazakh gold medalist. Can't remember the details, but maybe they just take it waaaay too seriously in Kzk'stan. Anyways, it looks political, surely his mandatories have to come at some point?

    Saddest thing is the kid's actually a pretty decent boxer - I don't think he'd rise to the top now, cos the 175s on fire, but he could give a decent showing.
     
  8. Clint Eastwood

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    Saw something on google he said he offered cleverly and Hopkins fights but they still haven't got back to him. But yeah looking at his record it is a very strange career. Seems to have done the hard work at the start and now the competition is wavering off.
     
  9. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never heard anything about this, maybe Azerbaijan?

    IMO this guy was never serious about boxing. There's some oil money behind him, and he used it to get fights against washed up name opponents, and the early title shot. All he wanted is to call himself world champ, no interest in being one. Or maybe the ambition was there to begin with, but left when Campillo exposed him.

    But get this: his #1 contender in the WBA LHW rankings has for the longest time been a certain Gayrat Ahmedov. Gayrat who? I know, the name is hilarious and the guy hasn't fought anybody, but happens to be promoted by Shumenov. So that Kazakh oil money goes a long way, even in Panama.
     
  10. Kevin Willis

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    Good points.
     
  11. The Akbar One

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    They should. He sucks, and he got the belt due to highway Robbery from Campillo in their rematch.

    Shumenov is scared to fight anybody with a heart beat. He needs to just retire.
     
  12. Koba

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    Indeed. Azerbaijan not Kazakhstan. My bad (note to self- check B4 posting)

    With regard to names: I've always wondered whether this may have influenced Mr Gaydarbekov's choice to remain in the ams. Gayrat is truly blessed by the gods of transliteration isn't he tho'?
     
  13. The Funny Man 7

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    Apparently the guy is independently wealthy and his purses are a fraction of what he makes through business. I think he just boxes for the glory.
     
  14. WelshWizard

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    This guy reminds me of Tavoris Cloud situation when he's champion but yet he hardly fight's anyone and when he does against someone thats rank outside the top ten in their division and has no threat to them. I know I heard stuff about 50 wanting to do Pascal vs Beibut but I guess that never materialize and now where back to square one. If that's true if he had some oil business on the side and he just doing this to glory then he should just give it up because clearly there's no motivation when he got that amount of money coming in.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

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    This too is what I've heard.

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    I just want to say that it's not as though he's the worst titlist ever, or even at the moment. He genuinely tried to unify with Braehmer, tough luck with that situation. Two tough fights with a prime Campillo. Uzelkov is a pretty good win he looked sound in. I think he's underrated if anything. By no means am I oblivious to his inactivity, quality of title defenses, crude style, and skill deficiencies. He just has a bad reputation when he really shouldn't.

    I would really like a Shumenov vs. Pascal fight. Either Pascal earns another strap or Shumenov legitimizes his. I would pick Pascal but I wouldn't make him that big of a favorite.