Berto vs Ortiz II

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  1. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berto TKO in 9 or less. Ortiz does not know how to adjust.
     
  2. mt6e09

    mt6e09 New Member Full Member

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    Ortiz has some excellent physical attributes but as you say, he doesn't know how to adjust, isn't a clever enough boxer and doesn't have the heart to stay the distance.
     
  3. Cellz831

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    berto tko
     
  4. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Ortiz is as stupid as a human can get, I'd never bet on him with any confidence. Berto KO 6.
     
  5. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It has always been his shortcoming. He only knows two ways to fight and he seldom strays from them. He out boxed an old veteran in Campbell but other than that he just plods forward and catches punches as he trys to land bombs of his own. If he can't KO an opponent easily, he looks for a way out. In my opinion, Berto was his best fight and he was lucky to pull that fight off. Berto will adjust and he will out box Victor. Berto is not the best boxer but he is better and more skilled than Victor. Plus, unlike Victor, he not only has a plan A and B. He also has a plan C and D.
     
  6. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Plus Ortiz won't be allowed to use his head as much as he did in the first fight after he disgraced himself infront of millions
     
  7. mt6e09

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    IMO, if Berto approaches the fight correctly then he'll make it almost impossible for Victor to win.

    I don't actually mind watching Ortiz fight but he didn't deserve a pay-day against Floyd and whenever he fights anyone half-decent then he'll get shown up.
     
  8. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    YOU know you use your head a lot when you BLEED from the top of it SMH so glad Floyd served him a two piece.
     
  9. SweetHome_Bama

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    Berto doesn't know how to adjust and still has not developed an inside game. Vic by KO.
     
  10. Bodyshot99

    Bodyshot99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    berto got this, hold when thing get crazy, but other than that, knock ortiz' head off
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Both physically are beasts pity they not alittle smarter in the ring. They not knocking out bums anymore they on a higher level now, but I do admit recently prior to their fight they did look like they improved abit, but not enough. Victor boxing more, but still cant adjust. He was getting outboxed by Floyd, finally had him on ropes, but blew it. Bert has a nice jab, but gets lured into brawls easy. Both dont throw enough bodyshots either. It could be either ones fight. It will be fun.
     
  12. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Berto still has that weird stamina issue, and Ortiz, for all his short comings, has excellent cardio. Berto definitely has the ability to get him outta there early if he boxes, but if it goes into the late rounds, his success rate plummets and he gets pummeled against the ropes by Ortiz like last time.
     
  13. SOUTHERMOST

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    I take Ortiz he's the one with more power.
     
  14. Hitta_Squadup

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    50/50 fight....both have obvious flaws, but both have some strong attributes, its a toss and will look similar to the first fight but more competitive....I like Berto but i can't call this one...
     
  15. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Ortiz by **** Via Brutal KO 5!