Best of the 90s

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think I posted this before, but as everything has gone here is my 'best of the 90's'

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  2. George W Hedge

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    Delahoya was a good fighter & kind of still is but I can never think of him as no1, he just seemed to lack something that enables great fighters to become legendery fighters.

    I would say there are at least 3 boxers who were better in the 90s....
    Roy Jones, who, like oscar enjoyed all of his prime yrs in this decade & JcChavez & Whitaker who were still magnificent in the 90s but probably had their absolute peak performances in the late 80s, nonetheless still were both too good for oscar on a p4p level & in the early 90s imo.

    The Whitaker who fought Chavez at 147 lbs would have beaten oscar at that weight (oscar`s best weight imo) & Pernell`s best weight was 135... that tells you about my opinion of oscar being at no1.

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    I almost forgot......

    NO WAY should morales be 10 places behind mab, he should be 3 or 4 places in front imo.... erik only started losing (like all great boxers) when he started to erode, barrera got stopped twice while he still had plenty left in the tank vs guys defeated by morales.

    Ps. there was nothing in those wars between the 2 except the 2nd fight were erik won hands down... just my opinion.

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  4. My dinner with Conteh

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    No way is De La Hoya #1. :huh
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IMO he was the standout Icon of the 90s...

    He was perhaps the last 'American superstar boxer' to be a worldwide name amongst general sports fans. His only rival to the crown (Jones) suffers though his inability to put the names of his resume like de la Hoya did.

    On top of all this, from a distance it seemed de la Hoya, along with Chavez, started the 'mainstream' Latino revolution in boxing in the USA.
     
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    Icon? This is meant to be a poll based on ability isn't it? Not how many magazines he appeared on the cover of. Is Beckham the 'best' footballer of the 1990s too? There's only two contenders for me: Jones or Whitaker.
     
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    And Tyson was the only real 'worldwide' icon from the decade anyway. Grab a photo of Oscar and ask the first 100 people you see who it is- I bet about only seven people get it right.
     
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    I'm talking in UK of course. I can't see how a Brit can see someone with only 'moderate' fame over here as an 'icon', unless you've spent time in the States. It's like saying Garth Brooks is an icon.
     
  9. jimmie

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    I could see DLH at 1 because he dominated that decade only 1 of his 5 losses was in the 90s and he was robbed. Im not sure id stick Vargas in so high as he didnt do much in the 90s 85-100 could be ok.
     
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    Galaxy is way to high his best work was in the 80´s.
    and how can you put journeyman Pendleton at 38.
     
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    Probably are the 100 top fighters, but they're in a **** order...
     
  12. rekcutnevets

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    Pernell Whitaker was the best of the 90's.

    Let's compare his career with Oscar's.

    In the 90's, Whitaker continued cleaning out the lightweight division he had started washing in the 80's. He defeated Freddie Pendleton, who later went on to claim a world title. All time great, Azumah Nelson. Juan Nazario, Anthony Jones, Policarpo Diaz, and Jorge Paez.

    Oscar picked up his first legitimate world title at lightweight against Rafael Ruelas. At lightweight, de la Hoya fought fighters who had mostly excelled at weights below the lightweight division. He defeated, amoung others, John John Molina, Genaro Hernandez, and Jesse James Leija.

    Whitaker gets the nod in their lightweight competition.

    Oscar fought Julio Cesar Chavez, and Miguel Angel Gonzalez. Whitaker defeated Rafael Pineda for his world title.

    Advantage Oscar.

    Whitaker fought Buddy McGirt to win the welterweight title. McGirt was considered to be the best 4th or 5th pound for pound at the time. He then defended againt Chavez, who was considered the best pound for pound. He was robbed of victory against Chavez, but gained recognition as boxing's best afterwards. Defeated #1 contender, Santos Cordona. Gave McGirt a rematch, because some questioned McGirt's performance with a shoulder injury. Defended against #1 contender Gary Jacobs. Took a gimme fight againt Jake Rodriguez. Won a disputed decison over Wilfredo Rivera, and gave him an immediate rematch. Fought undefeated Diosbelys Hurtado. Then lost a disputed decision to de la Hoya. When he couldn't get a deserved rematch with Oscar, he fought a title eliminator against WBA top contender Andrei Pestriaev. He then tested positive for Cocain, and his title shot against Quartey never materialized.

    Oscar de la Hoya won his title against Whitaker. Instead of given the man who gave him a shot a chance to regain his title, he fought the following. David Kamau, who earned his shot by losing to Chavez at 140. Hector Camacho, such a great welterweight at the time:?. Wilfredo Rivera, who had already lost to Whitaker. Patrick Charpentier, his #1 contender. Julio Cesar Chavez, a little too late. Then Ike Quartey. After winning a disputed decision against Ike, Oscar was asked about a rematch. His response, " You think it was a good fight, Larry? I don't think it was a good fight Larry." It was the best fight of of Oscar's career at that point. He defeated Oba Carr. He then got robbed against Trinidad.

    I think Whitaker was the better welterweight champion.

    Whitaker fought and won the junior middleweight title from Julio Cesar Vasquez. Oscar did not enter this division in the 90's. Advantage Whitaker.

    Whitaker, best of the 90's.
     
  13. ThinBlack

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    I would definitely put Lennox above James Toney.
     
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    I think Roy Jones. not the best era.
     
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    Roy Jones Jr