Billy Conn

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  1. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When I see this name, I think of this.

    At the time he was lightheavy weight champion, he decided to step up and fight the heavy weight champion of the time : Joe Louis.

    I didn't watched the fight but I know he was doing pretty good, winning clearly a lot of rounds, he was ahead on points and en route to the upset.
    Unfortunately, he wanted to make the show and tried to knock Louis out. A 175er against a powerful 200er !!

    It costs him the fight in the 13rd round when he got knocked out (cold ?).

    This is the kind of man I admire the most.

    Comments ?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Conn is definitely a pound for pound great. He was beating world champions while he was still a teenager and had established an incredible resume by the time he met Louis.

    The war robbed him of some of his best years which is a shame because he was surely going to make big waves.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The most impressive thing is his ability - punching technique, speed, movement, combinations. Wonderful boxer to watch.

    If he pot shotted Louis and stuck and moved he would have beat Louis. But he decided to fight on the inside throwing 6 punch hook combinations and moved out. He managed to pull this off for quite a while before getting caught

    Is Conn better than Tunney? I think so
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    A strong case can be made.
     
  5. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At lightheavy, Tunney was awesome. I don't know that much about Conn but a Tunney - Conn at lightheayweight would have been something incredible.
     
  6. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great light heavies have done well in many Heavyweight eras of boxing but not Bob Foster. Was he a worse fighter than Conn or was he fighting better fighters i.e. Frazier and Ali?
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Perhaps a little bit of both but-

    Above all he was less well suited stylisticaly to taking on heavyweights than Conn. He was a fighter who relied on his physical advantages a lot.
     
  8. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well said. My thought exactly.
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If you put Bob Foster in Billy Conn's era then he would wreak havoc in the light heavyweight division, but get disapointing results when he stepped up to heavyweight just as he did in his own era.

    If you put Billy Conn in the 70s then it would be him and not Jimmy Ellis who faced off against Joe Frazier for the vacant title during Muhamad Ali's exile.
     
  10. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can't really blame him, lightheavyweight and heavyweight are separated by 20 pounds... hard to compete with big boxers with only power as weapon.
    Tunney was a different, probably the smartest boxer ever. He was able to read through his opponents and find a way in 2 rounds (and without any footage please!).

    Awesome. That's why he is so fascinating.
     
  11. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I remember reading something about Conn beating up a mugger back in the 90's. Imagine trying to rob an old man, and getting pounded in return. Conn was always ballsy. Conn gets critisized a lot for going for the knock out against Joe, but I think you owe anybody who goes for the gusto a round of applause.
     
  12. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    Wasn´t it suppose to be Dempsey?

    This bull**** story gets repeated with all different fighters.
     
  13. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Dempsey died in the early 80's. This was supposed to have happened in the 90's. It may have come from Fight News. They had a cartoon drawing of an Old Conn beating up a mugger.
     
  14. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On the night he fought Louis, Conn was one of the best 175lbers ever. he was top 5
     
  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    oNE OF THE GREATEST pure boxers ever. Top 5 atg light-heavyweight