Boxing mates

GPater11093 · Jul 4, 2009

Duodenum said: ↑

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Floyd and Ingo also had a rowing heat against each other in an ABC Superstar's retired athlete's segment. (Ingo trashed Floyd, but Patterson was the only retiree competing with his shirt off, and his physique was that of a 20 year old man with the six pack he was sporting. Say what you will about his "modesty," but he knew he looked good compared to all the other paunchy contestants like Ingo.) It was obvious during the interview after the race that they enjoyed being together.
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i could imagine Patterson stayed in shape, Im pretty sure Ingo did alot of marathon running after he retired and Patterson would run with him alot.

This is where John Garfield could shed an awful lot of light on just how close some of these relationships were. Since Graziano was able to get something of a show business career going with Martha Raye's show after his retirement (remember the commercial they did several decades later for Polident?), it wouldn't surprise me if Robinson was attracted to Rocky's entertainment success like a moth to a light.
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some good points

Ray has been described by some (Basilio) as an arrogant SOB, but I'd imagine he had some respect for Pep's abilities. Of course Pep and Graziano were Italian, so I suspect there was at least a connection there.
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Basilio once met Ray Robinson before he (Carmen) became a champ and Ray just snubbed him off. So he was always angry at him and the fact that Ray was cocky didnt help.

Also i thought Ry and Pep was freinds as i saw an exhibition between them where they was joking around.

Again, when it comes to clarifying the nature of many of these interactions, JG might be able to offer a great deal of first hand observations. (Assuming he doesn't feel bound to an ethic of secrecy, of course. Basilio has already been taped as saying that when SRR died, "I didn't give a ****!")
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hope JG pops up in here

Rock0052 said: ↑

I think I read somewhere that Saddler still had some bad blood with Pep, but I can't say for sure as it sounded more like rumor than anything. Maybe someone closer to them could shed a better light on it.
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i have seen afew interviews with them after the programme. Saddler seems to be abit annoyed that Pep is regarded higher than him but they went to alot of boxing matches together and were freinds from what i have read and seen.

Duodenum said: ↑

When they appeared together on Curt Gowdy's retrospective sports program, "The Way it Was," they were indeed arguing about the events taking place during the controversial fight between them that they were reviewing, a stark contrast to the genial and civil repartee between other former boxing opponents on Gowdy's show.
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never seen it ill have a look for it

Duodenum said: ↑

Oh, before I forget, Alexis Arguello and Aaron Pryor. (While thinking of El Flaco Explosivo, we ought to be keeping The Hawk in our thoughts as well at this moment.)
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yeh another great one
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