Bute lowballed Kessler!

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  1. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Truth is that most Bute fans simply correct, a bit too passionately at times I admit, the false statements that are always made like that one in bold.

    Never and I mean never did Kessler's people seriously approach Bute's people or try to make an offer. That's a lie that you happily repeat because it suits your own agenda. Funny thing is I can't recall people saying **** that don't stand any ground in regards to Kessler, but You Euros do that all the ****in' time with Bute. Are you really that insecure ??? Little minds at work...

    We simply put things in perspective. You don't. Bute desperately wanted to fight Kessler or Pavlik next this year...but the simple truth for people that can still use common sense, is that Kessler ducked and Pavlik ducked. End of story in that department. Lets move on.

    Now to show you that what's important is to consistently focus on truth and common sense...here are some negatives I see about Bute or Interbox in the last few years :

    1- William Joppy in 2008 was a major joke of a fight and they should have at least gone for a Zuniga type instead for a voluntary fight right after the championship one.

    2- In 2010, they seriously ****ed up by not getting rid of their mandatory Brinkley in the summer, because then they easily could have pushed to right away get in the S6 in the fall when guys started dropping out. At the very least, knowing how **** unfolded since the Miranda fight, they should have temporarily moved up to fight Jean Pascal at 175lbs.

    3- The Interbox people I believe are too nice for their own good. Not enough boxing people in that company, and they have not much in common with sharks like Don King, Bob Arum, Gary Shaw, Frank W. or the Sauerlands. Ever heard them or Bute make controversial comments ? They don't because it's not in their nature..although it is a big part of the boxing world.
     
  2. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why didn't Kessler offer Bute 2 million instead of giving Stieglitz 3 + million ?

    Bute never made over 1.3 million. They don't generate enough to pay more, up to now.

    Why give Stieglitz all that money and not Bute if it's anywhere true that he really wanted to fight Bute ? You should ask yourself that question instead.

    Sauerland negociated for so many weeks to get an agreement with Stieglitz that pays Stieglitz about 75% of all the money made. But they can't return a single phone call when it comes to Bute that wouldn't even ask for anything near 3 million ?

    Can you say double standards...

    Sauerland didn't want Bute for Kessler now. TOO RISKY for their little cash cow.
     
  3. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    at least they accomplished something somewhere....andrade while a good fighter has accomplished nothing ...i will take king arthurs undefeated middleweight record and 13 ibf title fight wins over anything andrade or 23-2 mundine has or has done since..... jermain taylor at least holds 2 wins over hopkins...who beat pascal...thats better than ANY kessler win...or any of kesslers opponents wins.....
    whats marcus beyers claim to fame? whats his best win? eric lucas? 19-1 danny green? omar sheika? **** man, none of these guys ever beat anyone and when kessler beats them its a top 3 win....sad dude...you have to plea a case to get show why beyer, mundine and andrade were defining wins.... i guess compared to gus pedromo, sartisan and hausler...they are super 6 type wins
     
  4. Jan(DK)

    Jan(DK) Joined april 2007 Full Member

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    Jesus - did i hit a nerve here.........:shock:
     
  5. Jan(DK)

    Jan(DK) Joined april 2007 Full Member

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    Oh i get it:

    Kessler should offer Bute 2 mill and then travel to fight in Canada - just because Bute is DESPERATE to fight Kessler...........:-(
     
  6. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just offer anything under what he did for Stieglitz to fight Bute in Denmark and see what happens....

    But Can't do that in case Bute says yes. :hey

    Might as well offer a golden deal to a lesser opponent of course. :deal He has to make sure he gets a belt...
     
  7. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You ain't hit ****, but the little lonely cell scrambling around your gray matter.
     
  8. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Bute never turned Kessler down and Froch also chose not to pursue the negociations with Bute.
     
  9. boxfan99

    boxfan99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who should we trust, its hard to say.

    On the one hand we got Kessler who has shown he was willing to travel several times before, even to VERY good opponents backyards like Calzaghe, Ward and Mundine (yes! I consider Mundine back in those days good).

    On the other hand we got Bute who fights 2nd/3rd tier fighters in Canada and Romania period! And preferably with the referee of his choice (you know what referee im referring to so dont play stupid;)).

    Considering these facts I'm leaning towards trusting Team-Bute, I'm sure Kessler was afraid of going outside his comfort zone, and I'm sure if Sauerland had made a counteroffer, even a low one, Bute had jumped on the first plane to Germany/Denmark to fight Kessler there. Kessler is a ducking ******* and I wish boxing had more gutsy risktaking boxers like Bute. :roll::roll::roll:

    Another thing, if this fight EVER happens, I think we all know (deep inside even if some wont admit it) where it will take place, Canada! And no its not because Sauerland is neither cheap nor poor and cant match Interboxs offer, its because its the only place Bute will fight Kessler.

    And now I'll lean back awaiting being called a ****** or something along those lines, afterall its always the best comeback-reply when you don't like what you are hearing/reading.
     
  10. Sidious

    Sidious Guest

    you are not a ******,you are just a clown.i think they need a muppet like you in sessame street son.
     
  11. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Your reason, is the best choice. But that if you have did your research.
     
  12. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    That you know nothing of the SMW division is no excuse for posting ******ed posts. Fact is Kessler has fought the best of the best in the division except for Bute. He lost to two very good SMWs and won against the rest. It is very clear that Abraham and Taylor were not good wins at SMW since they are not fit for that weight class and that's a stone cold fact. I'd pick Andrade to beat Taylor at SMW and I'd pick any of the top SMWs as of now to beat Abraham comfortably.
     
  13. THN

    THN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on :good
     
  14. neuromancer

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    I don't know if it was a duck or not from Kessler. I know he would fight Bute like he said anywhere, anyhow cause he showed he has a lot of heart and willing to travel. I regret very much the fight was not done, but let's hope that after he takes the belt from Stieglitz both Sauerland and Interbox will find a common point to start negotiations for a fight again.
     
  15. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If i remember correctly , they were suppose to do the fight in Romania but somenthing went wrong in the last minute so Bute had a long lay-off , i'm with when you say that Bute shopuld have fight that summer. 2 Fights a year agains't lesser oppostion can't do anything good