total bull****, you cats and this crap about fighters avoiding joe??? Well truth is while so many of you guys claim that joe makes sooo much money its not true in terms of what American fighters make. Bottom line is a 6 million dollar offer for Taylor to travel to Joe backyard isnt ****, not when you think that Taylor made 4 million in his last several fights fighting at home in his own weight class:hey . Joe is trying to lure smaller guys to come to the UK and fight, when thoughout his career he has rejected or dismissed bigger fighters that offered him fights. Alast I have not forget the fact that Joe didnt accept offers to fight DM, Jones, and even Woods, that would have saw him move up in weight:huh
hehe - yeah Calzaghe has a greay history of mandatory defenses - made two of those in 10 years as champion :good But that said - he is fighting Kessler next - everything else doesn't mater anymore. None of the fighters he "ducked" (apart from RJJ) can't hold a candle to Kessler. So come november 3 everything else doesn't mater anymore
Nearly every name in this thread are just mediocure fighters, who if he had fought you would be saying exactly the same "fighting bums" bull****. RJJ hadnt fought at 168 since the late 90s, Winky was way down at 154 looking for the Trinidad/De La Hoya fights. The Hopkins fight was supposed to be made after Calzaghe beat Mitchell, Showtime showed Mitchell-Calzaghe and afterwards they pushed for a Calzaghe-Hopkins fight. It has been said many times Hopkins is a hard guy to negotiate with, and so are Warren/Calzaghe so no wonder it wasnt made. Calzaghe has to hold some blame for not getting the big fights, Warren has to take some. But Calzaghe has been avoided, slick southpaw with an awkward style.. High risk, low reward fight.
And now we see why Kessler is being called overrated as well. I think Hopkins, Michalczewski, Johnson, and Toney hold more than just a candle to Kessler.
Well now they are all either shot or retired, so I'd have to agree. At the time they were "ducked"--or rather, "passed" on as possible Calzaghe opponents--each would've either had a great chance to beat the Kessler of today, or been favoured to beat him.
It's kind of amazing really. A lot of the Kessler fans are doing nothing but hating on Calzaghe and IF (big if ) Kessler beats him in November, they'll do nothing but praise him. They'll be shouting from the rooftops about how their favourite fighter beat the best even SM. There will be nothing wrong with Calzaghe's resume then, i'll bet. From saying Calzaghe fought past their peak fighters to saying Kessler beat a peak Calzaghe!! On to another thing. Just as Lacy was not ranked above Kessler when JC beat him, Mundine was not in the top 5 when he was beaten by Kessler. I believe he was around 6th or 7th. Yes, Calzaghe's resume is not outstanding, but who's is? Any fighters resume can be beat down. "RJJ only beat a green Hopkins, an under trained Toney and he avoided his only real challenge in DM" Amazing how if he had of fought and beaten DM, it'd turn out that he was only a litter waredn or some shite! "Pacquaio lost to a peak Morales and then only beat him twice coz he was shot" "Of Hopkins four biggest wins, three are against way smaller men" "Lewis ducked a peak, Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield and only beat McCall because he was on drugs" But hey, it's all a bit of fun. If we all thought the same, it'd be kinda boring
It's funny how all these threads that mention calzaghe seem to attract so much intrest,i sense a little jealousy eastside of the world,like i said in another thread,if he was American or had an american accent(eg lennox) would you like him a bit more then yehatriot
it's funny how Warren offered taylor a fight with joe,then suddenly taylor doesn't wanna go up to smw,who's ducking who eh? just face it Yankee boys,our man is better than any of your so called p4p crap,bhop,winky,taylor,he'd beat all these numptys with one hand tied behind his back.
you just totally missed the entire point of my post, and at the same time backed my point, try again:roll:
so then after he's beaten kessler,in your opinion who is out there he can truly get credit for beating then?