Calzaghe v Ward

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who had the better Career?
    Who wins H2H?
    Who ranks higher All-time?

    Joe:

    46-0 (32 KOs)
    22-0 in world title fights
    Best wins include Eubank, BHop, RJJ, Kessler, Bika, Lacy

    Career assessment: Joe had some "homecooking" and earned the nickname Slappy Joe after getting some eyebrow raising stoppage wins. He received benefit of the doubt in regard to judging on more than one occasion but didnt appear to benefit from a "robbery." Consistent though unimpressive at times via the eye test.

    Misses: Coming to US sooner to face RJJ and/or BHop. Those are by far his greatest shortcomings. There are other ranked matches he missed out on due to refusal to fight "across the pond" though in his defense neither BHop nor RJJ (nor most ranked opponents) crossed the pond either.

    Ward:

    32-0 (16 KOs)
    10-0 in world title fights
    Best wins include Kovalev, Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Bika, Dawson

    Career assessment: Both had some controversy in regard to judging but Ward appears the larger beneficiary as almost everyone watching Kovalev 1 saw Sergei win. Kovalev 2 was a shame. Ward legitimately hurt Kovalev with a right hand that made Sergei stagger. If Tony Weekes intervenes after first lowblow and gives Sergei time to recover a proper stoppage was likely to come for Ward in what wouldve been his crowning moment. That was not the case though and Ward lowblowed a hurt Sergei into submission in what would be his final fight.

    Major Misses: Bivol or Beterbiev at 175, GGG at 164, Bute before Froch

    For career achievements I edge Calzaghe. Head-to-head I think requires 3 fights. ATG ranking gotta go to Joe.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward easy
     
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  3. Chuck Norris

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    The main problem when comparing Calzaghe and Ward, is that Ward is vehemently hated here, so it is hard to see a objective take on the matter. Hopkins and Jones are better wins on paper, but neither was in their prime at the time. Whereas Ward's victories were better as Kovalev was in his prime. There was nothing controversial with the first bout. I always thought the second fight with the low blow was some ****.

    168 - Calzaghe.
    175 - Ward.

    Head to head, I would favor Ward. He would edge it in a close fight.

    Calzaghe with 21 defenses in a 10 year title reign is the better achievement. Calzaghe, along with Ottke, Lopez, Michalzewski and Louis are the only fighters to amass over 20 title defenses.

    I know Abe Atell has 22 defenses per Wikipedia, but I'm not sure whether it is verified. Samson Dutch Boy Gym had over 30 defenses of the WBF world title, but that obviously doesn't count.
     
  4. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Calzaghe. He never needed to cheat or be bailed out by the judges.
     
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    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Calzaghe. Ward's resume has aged pretty poorly, and the home town advantage has left a bad taste in many mouths, I think.
     
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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nothing great about Joe’s title reign.

    1. It wasn’t a major belt.

    2. A dozen of his defences came against non world level fighters.
     
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    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Ward. Calzaghe struggled to beat an old Hopkins. Ward was a stronger, more athletic and probably more cerebral 2.0 version of Hopkins.
     
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  8. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why not?
    Calzaghe had the wbo which was about as relevant as the wbf at that point in history.