Calzaghe vs Hopkins

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  1. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Hopkins wouldn't of had a chance back In 02 anyway.

    Just now he will lose even harder to Joe.:yep
     
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  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Totally agree.But Joe didnt do the same. He held the WBO for far too long. All the mooted bouts with the names then that were available from 60 - 75 never happened. Joe and his father and Warren blaimed everyone else and now that his just built on his win over Lacy with a win over the Kessler his the next big thing? Not in my book.
     
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  3. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    What next big thing? Regardless of Lacy and Kessler he's clearly a brilliant fighter.
     
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  4. GazOC

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    Theres a fair few poor defences on Calzaghes record but it also includes Woohhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Reid, Lacy, Kessler, Sheika, Eubank. Pretty decent opposition IMHO.
     
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    you could quite easily say that about mayweather b4 the hatton fight
     
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  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Very decent opposition. Bar Eubanks they are all B and C level and all the more reason why he should have been stepping it up ages ago.Joe was supposed to be at 75 over 3 years ago.:roll: Remember his claims that he couldnt make the weight?
     
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  7. GazOC

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    I don't know how many letters you use to rank fighters but it must be a fair few if Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchel and Reid are B and C level, they were all world class fighters (champions in some cases). Are we saying its OK for Hopkins to stay at 160 but not for Calzaghe to stay at 168?

    I also remember David Hayes claims he can't make cruiser...;)
     
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  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Davids certainly tight at the weight. Theres no questioning that. Calzaghe has been at 68 for his ENTIRE CAREER.That doesnt sound like a man that has trouble making weight. Now like i said i had no problem with Joe staying at 68. But the bottom line is when it mattered most the bouts never happened. 68 was a wasteland.And yet he would face Ottke.He had tons of great matchups around him and always it was someone elses fault as to why they never happened. There was a time when he was mooted to face Joppy! Even that fell through.:roll:
     
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  9. GazOC

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    What matchups would you have liked to see at 168?
     
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  10. brown bomber

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    Pre championship Calzaghe featured in some of the most 'minging' fights you could wish to see.... He found it so easy he used to showboat and make a right **** of himself. Then they pitch him in with Eubank and its like watching a completely different fighter. Watch his early performances and you'll see a braggart who show boats and can't punch properly. Watch him Vs Lacy and Kessler and you've got a brilliant fighter... Amazing difference.
     
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    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Calzaghe Vs Hopkins, Jones Jnr, Michealzewski, Tarver, Johnson all could have been made with compromise.
     
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    :good
     
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  13. GazOC

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    You snuck in before I put 'at 168' (which nixes DM, Tarver, Johnson and maybe RJJ) on the end.....:lol:
     
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  14. brown bomber

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    :lol: I'm always quick....
     
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  15. scurlaruntings

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    **** it i would have taken Thomas Tate, Joppy, Glen Johnson, Tito, or Harry Simon. 4 of those five he had semi-confirmed bouts that fell through for one reason or another. ALL would have given him name and star recognition abroad.
     
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