Chisora v Ortiz

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  1. BoxingViewer

    BoxingViewer Active Member Full Member

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    Who wins this fight at this stage of their respective careers?
     
  2. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    After seeing Chisora's last fight, Ortiz wins this even at 60 years of age.
     
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    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Del's been in a lot of wars, he's very shopworn now...
    And it's hardly surprising - unlike Ortiz, Chisora would fight anyone, and went in with a lot of top fighters - yes, he has losses on his record, but that's because he was actually willing to have a go.

    It's difficult to compare when one has a far thinner resume than the other.

    I suspect in their primes this would be 60/40 Chisora, but it's hard to be sure.
    Now? Ortiz is pretty much done, but Chisora is shot to bits - Ortiz would have the upper hand, though not necessarily a sure thing.
     
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    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz old and his chin has been permanently dented, but he ain't finished. he eventually clips Chisora
     
  5. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Ortiz KO
     
  6. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "unlike Ortiz, Chisora would fight anyone"

    Except any version of Luis Ortiz by his own admission. Skip to 4 mins:

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    Hearn: "Would you fight Ortiz?"

    Chisora: "No, why would I want a long night at the office for?" - 2023

    Also Chisora, in 2016: "Ortiz is a nightmare man, he's like a southpaw Mike Tyson"

    At least Chisora was honest.

    Of Chisora's 16 best opponents, he's officially lost to 13. Two of his three best wins were Scott and Takam in wars: the former got shut out by Ortiz and was in survival mode all fight, the latter ducked Ortiz to fight Duhaupas (a fight which also didn't materialise).
     
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    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Close fight. I'd favour Chisora because he faced better opposition.
     
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    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz clearly. He went the distance with Andy Ruiz in his last fight. Chisora was falling over his own feet against Gerrard Washington. Chisora is shot to bits. Ortiz might still give some fringe contenders a decent run out.
     
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    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    The smell of Formaldehyde would eventually overcome Derrick.
     
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  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Went the distance, but got floored 3 times and lost. Also got dropped by a jab by Martin. They both seem equally shot at this point, but Chisora is capable of giving anyone a tough night.
     
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    Chisora has Diamond Boy problems.
     
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    All the wars Chisora's had has aged him even beyond the ancient Ortiz at this point. He's looked dreadful in recent fights. In his prime he would of stopped Washington in a one sided fight, even Ortiz now would KO Washington.

    So I'd favour Ortiz now. In their primes it would of been a much tougher call. Ortiz is the better technical fighter and his counter punching style would cause Chisora problems, but Chisora has a good chin and if Ortiz can't stop or Deter Chisora from walking him down, he simply doesn't have the footwork to not get drawn into Chisora's type of fight and be ground down.