Cotto better than Kessler??

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  1. sonny73

    sonny73 Active Member Full Member

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    For some reason Ring Magazine have Cotto higher on their P4P list than a Kessler someone who is a double world champ unbeaten in more fights and having beat a slightly higher opposition I feel.Is it just a case of the Puerto Rican voting contingent bigging up Cotto above his actual achievements or do neutral minded people actually feel he is more deserving of a position on the top ten list above Kessler?.Maybe the voters for the p4p list should be dissallowed to vote for countrymen or people they have a vested interest in.
     
  2. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Cotto is a two division champion with wins over fighters like DeMarcus Corley, Ricardo Torres, Zab Judah, Carlos Quintana, Oktay Urkal, Paulie Malinaggi, Carlos Maussa and Randel Baily.

    Kessler has beatin Marcus Beyer.......... Librado Andrade and the GREAT Anthony Mundine.

    Cotto's higher unless Kessler beats Calzaghe.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Cotto is a bigger name with a big name promoter. He therefore gets preferential treatment. All his fights are on HBO and Showtime, so writers have more opportunities to watch him. There's alot of great fighters out there who the so called experts ignore. It's ridiculous. Look at Dan Rafael's p4p list. He has Margarito ahead of Kessler. There is no way that anyone who has seen these two fight should have Margarito ahead of Kessler. B-Hop, Winky, and Calzaghe were whoopin ass for years, but didn't get put on the p4p lists until they beat a big named fighter(even if that big named fighter was inferior to them skillwise).
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Cotto is the flemsiest two division champ I have ever seen. He his 140 lb. title was a vacant title that he won by beating the immortal Kelson Pinto. His WW title was another vacant title that he wasn't even supposed to be fighting for. His promoter paid Urkal step aside money so that he could fight Quintana for another vacant title.
     
  5. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto has much better wins and has been successful in two different weight classes. Obviously he's better P4P than Kessler.
     
  6. PR Boxing Lore

    PR Boxing Lore Member Full Member

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    Well all the other top p4p lists I have seen have Cotto on top of him ,including magazines and personal reviews.
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Ring Magazine is an American magazine
     
  9. Tito Time

    Tito Time slayin um Full Member

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    I don't mean to sound ignorant or anything, but every post I read you always have something negative to say about Cotto. Just noticed that... Although most of your posts are very knowledgable.:huh
     
  10. The Italarican

    The Italarican Pretty Good Poster Full Member

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    Kessler jumps ahead of Cotto with an noncontroversial win over Calzaghe. Until then, right now Ring has it right.
     
  11. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto has the much better resume, and is doing it now at his second weightclass, its a no brainer.
     
  12. Terrible Terry

    Terrible Terry Member Full Member

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    I love Kessler but Cotto has fought much better competiton and has already won on a big pay per view show. Kessler has not fought anyone yet. Cotto is eye catching to fans because he destroys people and Kessler is a great European style boxer which a lot of americans don't enjoy watching.
     
  13. alex-boxer42

    alex-boxer42 Active Member Full Member

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    I have a couple of problems with your post. Kessler being a double cahmpion, trple quadruple doesnt mean anything because those are usless belts. The fighter skill and competiton level especially in the last five fights is what matters. Yes hes unbeaten in more fights, because hes fought more easy competition then Cotto. Kessler hasnt fought and beaten as many high level fighters as Cotto and definitly hasnt destroyed them like he has either. In my book if your destroying your(high level) competition, your pound 4 pound.
     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    bingo

    p4p list in america are a popularity contest, not a skill contest
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto has a better resume, but only to American Media influenced eyes.