Criticizing Jones' resume

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  1. rhin0z>

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    :bbbWow nice clip. Anybody that great is going to be followed by a train of hate.
     
  2. Loudon

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    Sadly.

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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Come on, now. Surely that plays a factor, but Roy receives plenty of criticism for valid reasons, too. You would acknowledge that, no?

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    To this very day, RJJ is still stealing from HBO with his ****py, borderline literate commentary.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

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    Disagree there. Roy is one of my favorite commentators from the current crop on HBO, Showtime, ESPN.

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  7. Loudon

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    If everyone was objective, and allowed for all and any circumstances, and they knew the things that I know, then they'd be much easier on him.

    Again, most of the criticism was due to frustration.

    At times, he was too good for his own good.

    If you get a guy that's beating decent fighters, by barely losing rounds for the most part, in uncompetitive fights, then people will rightly demand that he fights the biggest possible fights out there. That's only natural.

    But if for whatever reason those fights can't be made, and then the guy continues to easily beat his competition, then people are going to get angry. That's what happened.

    Now a lot of Roy's opponents were decent, and they went on to achieve things after Roy had easily beaten them. It's just that Roy made them look like nobodies. But I believe that had Roy's fights been more competitive and entertaining, he probably wouldn't have received half as much criticism.

    People like yourself, say that he trod the path of least resistance. But that is absolutely nonsense.


    I don't know if you've read the excerpt from Jim Thomas's book that I posted yesterday? Jim Thomas is highly respected, and he was Evander Holyfield's attorney for 13 years. He made all of Evander's fights for him. His book is an honest account of the time they shared together.

    Here's a small excerpt from his great book:

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...&sa=X&ei=_SS7VOWGAsHnaPvagpgC&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA


    How many links have I now shown you?


    I've clearly proven to you that he wasn't just content to fight easy fights.


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  8. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny Pac'c career is more embarrassing.
     
  9. Loudon

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    :good
     
  10. Loudon

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    We'd never have guessed.

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  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Jones was a great fighter in his prime, no question. But he also did not face all the top challengers available to him, opting to fight his share of cab drivers and cops (literally, in this particular case). Sure, he's not the first who did this, nor will he be the last, but he did do it.

    He also relied overly heavily on his exceptional natural athletic ability. And unlike Muhammad Ali, when this deserted him, he wasn't able to make the stylistic adjustments necessary to remain competitive at the top level. Hence, the rather pathetic last decade of his career, which has tarnished his legacy greatly.
     
  12. Loudon

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    He didn't just opt to fight cab drivers.

    Read the thread in it's entirety.

    He has had a poor decade, and he should have retired a long time ago. But however long he carries on, he can't undo what's already been done.
     
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    And they got the nerve to say I ain't fight nobody
    I just make 'em look like nobody
     
  14. rhin0z>

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    who dat said dat:bbb
     
  15. Loudon

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    He was right.

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